Hans-Dieter Flick

Hansi Flick - how do we rate him?


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Birdy

Senior Member
Raphinha was every bit as good as olsie at Leeds but that's not what makes him WC.

His 15 points winning contributions to a league title isn't what makes him WC.

Him average 20 GC for two years at Barca isn't what makes him WC.

13 goals & 9 assist in the CL is what makes him world class.

34 goals & 26 assist all comps is what makes him world class.

Snowing up in big moments is what makes him WC

Birdy just got caught saying some dumb shit about olsie and isak being world class, which would only be based on what they put up last season, and is trying to do mental gymnastics after that 😂😂.

But even when he does raphinha still either matches or beats them

Look at your mirror and you will find the only one saying dumb shit in here

Why are you even citing numbers from Raphina's last season?

You have serious trouble with reading comprehension and basic argumentation.
If you were my student, you will have gotten a straight F in Logic 101
 

jamrock

Senior Member
What's different? Raphinha was indeed World Class last season.

Did you even read what I wrote?

Which makes him world class this season
Which makes him world class period.

You're talking out the two side of your mouth is my issue.

He's very good before last season and world class after, thats what serghei and I have been saying.

Your saying he is, but he isn't.
He has good numbers, but he's not X
He works hard but but.

Where were your buts with McAllister, Dutch dude, salah when you were calling them world class? Is my point and question.

When you were telling us wirtz is world class because of his numbers, with no caveats.
 

SeloBarca

Senior Member
Flick's tactic won't work after 10 games, as teams will prepare....
Flick's tactic won't work second half of the season, as teams will prepare....
Flick's tactic won't work in crucial games, as top teams will prepare....
Flick's tactic won't work next season, as teams will prepare....

Then after the first lost title somewhere in the future: "Ha, I told you so!!!"

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"Ha, I told you so!!!"
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Which makes him world class this season
Which makes him world class period.

You're talking out the two side of your mouth is my issue.

He's very good before last season and world class after, thats what serghei and I have been saying.

Your saying he is, but he isn't.
He has good numbers, but he's not X
He works hard but but.

Where were your buts with McAllister, Dutch dude, salah when you were calling them world class? Is my point and question.

When you were telling us wirtz is world class because of his numbers, with no caveats.

Dude, you are getting tiresome as well, because you refuse to take your L, like Serghei

The difference between world-class player and a merely top player is explained to you many times above.
Care to read.
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
Of course Baljeet is in here twerking for Birdy who is up to his usual anti-Barca gimmick.

Raphinha has had atleast 2 world class seasons, perhaps 3.
 

Temptation

Well-known member
Which makes him world class this season
Which makes him world class period.

You're talking out the two side of your mouth is my issue.

He's very good before last season and world class after, thats what serghei and I have been saying.

Your saying he is, but he isn't.
He has good numbers, but he's not X
He works hard but but.

Where were your buts with McAllister, Dutch dude, salah when you were calling them world class? Is my point and question.

When you were telling us wirtz is world class because of his numbers, with no caveats.
Depends.

If Raphinha doesn't perform this season, then it's just a purple patch/one off season. If he's still on the same level then he's World Class.

For now, you can call him World Class because of last season which was phenomenal.

Mac Allister isn't world class. Never was. He was very good last season and is dogshit this season. Gravenberch is better than him. This forum will always hype up Messi's mates. Look at Enzo who's a huge flop at Chelsea (although he's been better lately) but nobody here criticizes him.

Who's the Dutch dude?

Salah was world class for years throughout his prime. It's not even a debate.

Wirtz had 2 world class seasons at Leverkusen, winning the best player in his league and leading them to a historic invincible season as the undisputed main man. If he flops at Liverpool, he won't be World Class. But based on his Leverkusen career, he's World Class.

You need atleast 2 seasons to be sure but you can definitely call Raphinha World Class now until he proves otherwise. Nobody here has defended Raphinha more than me. Even under Xavi.
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
Meanwhile Baljeet has the audacity to say Florian Wirtz had 2 world class seasons at Leverkusen :lol:

Raphinha had 21 G + A in CL last season. Florian won't get that in his whole career. Fuck outta here :lol:
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Olise the two seasons before joining Bayern
10 goals 6 assist, 19 games
2 goals 11 assist 40 games.

Raphinha two seasons before joining Barca
11 goals 3 assist 36 games
8 goals 11 assist 38 games

Stunning
While playing for a worse team.

mind you all this is irrelevant to why he's WC, but just for kicks.
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
Ignore this cuck. He's just salty about getting destroyed in every Football discussion by me for years. :lol:

Even Serghei or Jamrock wouldn't say that Raphinha had world class seasons before last season.

Lil buddy, you don't need to twerk so much for anything anti-Barca. Not healthy for you. :lol:

Raphinha had 23 G + A in 37 games in 23-24 season. Those are world-class numbers for a winger/wide forward. Remember, he was getting subbed out early by Xavi, so going by minutes, he only played 2000 minutes in 23-24. Those are top numbers for minutes played with a G + A every 80-90 minutes or so.

And then of course last season. The debatable one is 22-23.
 

Temptation

Well-known member
Olise the two seasons before joining Bayern
10 goals 6 assist, 19 games
2 goals 11 assist 40 games.

Raphinha two seasons before joining Barca
11 goals 3 assist 36 games
8 goals 11 assist 38 games

Stunning
While playing for a worse team.

mind you all this is irrelevant to why he's WC, but just for kicks.
Olise is a lot more than just statistics. His technical ability is crazy. It's like rating Yamal based on pure statistics.

His style of play isn't just based on numbers. Although he has great numbers too.

At Palace, he was a baller who showed clear potential to be World Class in the future.

At Bayern, he's playing like a World Class player currently fulfilling that potential.
 

Temptation

Well-known member
Lil buddy, you don't need to twerk so much for anything anti-Barca. Not healthy for you. :lol:

Raphinha had 23 G + A in 37 games in 23-24 season. Those are world-class numbers for a winger/wide forward.

And then of course last season. The debatable one is 22-23.
Hilarious considering I was the one defending Raphinha when you and your mates wanted him sold under Xavi. :lol: :lol:
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
None of these bums can match Raphinha's intensity and defensive contribution and leadership on the pitch either.

:lol: Olise :lol:
 

Temptation

Well-known member
I categorically said Rapha would have deserved the Ballon d or last season and yet you have people here pretending like I don't rate him just because I wrote a nuanced analysis on his career before last season. :lol: :lol:
 

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