Ousmane Dembélé

malvolio

malvolio

Senior Member
FCBarca said:
It's a marketing award and in today's world, PR moves the needle - people focus on inconsequential things
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Top 2 were right on the money. Vitinha at 3rd is mostly because the Nations League.

Otherwise pretty much what was expected.

Dembele wins it because of the CL and rightly so. We had the easiest route to a final in years and we bottled it.
 
Raketa10

Raketa10

Senior Member
One of the worst Ballon d’Or awards ever. However, since there wasn’t any other candidate who was better than him, I would say this one deserved. A much bigger problem than him winning is placing Pedri in 11th and Raphinha in 5th place.
 
malvolio

malvolio

Senior Member
Raketa10 said:
One of the worst Ballon d’Or awards ever. However, since there wasn’t any other candidate who was better than him, I would say this one deserved. A much bigger problem than him winning is placing Pedri in 11th and Raphinha in 5th place.
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Raphinha is a limited player. I don't know how people put him up there with the best. Take away his running and you're left with not much else.
 
Don Juan Laporta Estruch

Don Juan Laporta Estruch

Basta yaaaaaaa, Cabron ! y Bona nit 🥂
Don't mind Volio. Guy is cock a hoop that Lamine didn't win it. Can't have anyone taking away any of that Messi shine.

ABB ( Anyone But Barca ) for eternity because any Barca success takes away some of that divine Messi shine !

Out of Ballon D'or hours we go back to our day job - shitting on all Barca players, team and management on the daily.

This club must be remembered for nothing more than Lionel ( smell his bumhole and say hmmmmmmmmmm ) Messi, for the rest of it's days. :biden:

That's what it's all about after all.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh that Messi shine :putin:
 
FCBarca

FCBarca

Truth
malvolio said:
Top 2 were right on the money. Vitinha at 3rd is mostly because the Nations League.

Otherwise pretty much what was expected.

Dembele wins it because of the CL and rightly so. We had the easiest route to a final in years and we bottled it.
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Far from it, unless criteria for 'best player of the year' is solely determined on team trophies there's little logic to it and as it is subjective and using those posing as journalists only underscores it is a marketing award

If you speak about BPOTY and actually query those with expertise, as in former footballers & legends of the game then the ranking is far from accurate. Expected, sure, this is a PR award else CR would never have won in Leo era

Same here, even Dembouz is not Demb enough to think he is a superior player to Lamine much less better than him for the last 12 if not 18 months

These individual awards are never anything but marketing awards
 
malvolio

malvolio

Senior Member
FCBarca said:
Far from it, unless criteria for 'best player of the year' is solely determined on team trophies there's little logic to it and as it is subjective and using those posing as journalists only underscores it is a marketing award

If you speak about BPOTY and actually query those with expertise, as in former footballers & legends of the game then the ranking is far from accurate. Expected, sure, this is a PR award else CR would never have won in Leo era

Same here, even Dembouz is not Demb enough to think he is a superior player to Lamine much less better than him for the last 12 if not 18 months

These individual awards are never anything but marketing awards
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Going by your logic Messi should have won every season, which I'm not against really.

But Dembele did have some good numbers, against the best teams around and won the trophies. Hardly a robbery.

I'd wager an in-form Mbappe is the best player in the world, so better than both Yamal and Dembele. Same people "with expertise" rated Ter Stegen, a player hated on here, so I wouldn't be so sure the results of those "experts" voting would have been to your liking.
 
FCBarca

FCBarca

Truth
malvolio said:
Going by your logic Messi should have won every season, which I'm not against really.

But Dembele did have some good numbers, against the best teams around and won the trophies. Hardly a robbery.

I'd wager an in-form Mbappe is the best player in the world, so better than both Yamal and Dembele. Same people "with expertise" rated Ter Stegen, a player hated on here, so I wouldn't be so sure the results of those "experts" voting would have been to your liking.
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What is the award meant to represent? It's touted as the BPOTY - what is the criteria to be best? Individual achievements/stats? Team ones? Consistency? Outrageous skill/talent throughout season?

Messi was like this every year, Maldini who I would respect for an individual award himself said Leo should win it every year - there's no one in his class. Last season, all neutrals (particularly former players & legends of game) when queried, easily cited Lamine

Mbappe? :ROFLMAO:. He has been outshined by Lamine in every encounter they have had for club or country, even when on the losing end

Go to bed, you're drunk
 
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feggydinho

Senior Member
FCBarca said:
What is the award meant to represent? It's touted as the BPOTY - what is the criteria to be best? Individual achievements/stats? Team ones? Consistency? Outrageous skill/talent throughout season?

Messi was like this every year, Maldini who I would respect for an individual award himself said Leo should win it every year - there's no one in his class. Last season, all neutrals (particularly former players & legends of game) when queried, easily cited Lamine

Mbappe? :ROFLMAO:. He has been outshined by Lamine in every encounter they have had for club or country, even when on the losing end

Go to bed, you're drunk
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So I would like to ask you the question you asked, what criteria is best for BPOTY?

This is cause even in Barca, Raphinha led in most stats (chances created, goals, assists). Yamal was the best in dribbles, so is that enough for him to win.

Also factor this, Pedri was voted best Barca player for last season, and Raphinha was voted La Liga player of last season or would you also query those votes since they don't have Yamal as the winner?
 
Birdy

Birdy

Senior Member
Temptation said:
Generational W for my boy @Birdy.

Congrats. You deserve the W more than anyone.

Ball knowledge won today.

Biggest L ever for the Birdy haters. Hold that you fucking losers! :lol:

You know who you are.....
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Thanks Tempt

There are those who know ball, and those who don't.
It was clear since day 1 at Barca that Ousmane had the potential to become WC, but the injuries were stopping him.
When he fixed that (already since Koeman and Xavi that was largely fixed, but at PSG he fixed it even more), there was nothing stopping him.

Of course Ballon D Or is matter of luck and circumstances. People like Salah that arguably could have won it and deserved it haven't.

But one thing is for sure: Ousmane belongs to the group of WC players that can win a Ballon D'Or, irrespective of whether that happens or not.
 
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