Joan Laporta

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Nah. We barely beat Frankfurt this season btw, a worse Frankfurt. Needed Kounde to save us with 2 headers.

Barca beat Frankurt this season.. barely or not and in group stages with less at stake no one really cares as long as win.

Losing to them and being out played twice was far worse.. than beating them narrowly in a drab game.
 

ZenI

Professor Balthazar
Barca and Real should try to strengthen LL, not only themselves - we have some power and leverage to make it happen. Beside us, Real and maybe Atletico the rest of the league is in poor condition economically... Fuck Super League, it was deadborn from the get go - focus on LL as a whole and it will strengthen the top clubs as well.
 

Loki

Well-known member
Laporta and part of his board resigned for the upcoming election. Interim board will lead the club now until June 30th, when the new elected president with his board will take over. But the interim president Yuste and the remainder of his board have only very few rights to act, so basically the club will be on ordinary administration until that time, with very limited transfer power and no rights for financial long-term decisions.

 

delancey

Senior Member
Why not just remain as President but assign limited rights to act on himself until the election?! Resigning seems so backwards. :lol:

Also... having Yuste, his right hand man, in charge while Laporta remains on the sidelines doesn't exactly inspire confidence of no wrong-doing. If anything, having an ally run the club is basically synonymous with Laporta running it. If they wanted to cheat, this wouldn't stop them. xDD
 
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DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Won't really matter since he'll basically have all the powers he needs once he is re-elected even if he cannot sign off on anything until July 1st.
 

Loki

Well-known member
it is very silly & serves no purpose. :lol:
There is some purpose behind it. Main point is conflict of interest. If Laporta remains president, he could use the club's ressources theoretically for the election campaign, or use the position in some other way like announcing big renewals during election, which would put his opposition at a disadvantage.
Also Barca's financial year ends in July 30th, so the new president and a new board starts with a clean sheet. Especially important if we're talking about debts, since the board also bears the responsibility to pay with their own money, if the debt is too high. There are some other legal things as well I don't remember now.

It's not like they pulled it out of their ass because they liked it that way.
 

delancey

Senior Member
There is some purpose behind it. Main point is conflict of interest. If Laporta remains president, he could use the club's ressources theoretically for the election campaign, or use the position in some other way like announcing big renewals during election, which would put his opposition at a disadvantage.
Correct! It is not as if resigning doesn't serve a purpose, but there are other ways of achieving the same outcome. Ex Introduce stricter checks and balances instead of making the leader of the club resign. Limit a President's ability to spend the club's resources before an election. Limit grand player acquisitions.

The same limitations on Yuste could apply to Laporta too.
Also Barca's financial year ends in July 30th, so the new president and a new board starts with a clean sheet. Especially important if we're talking about debts, since the board also bears the responsibility to pay with their own money, if the debt is too high. There are some other legal things as well I don't remember now.

It't not like they pulled it out of their ass because they liked it that way.
You are insinuating that the current board could, hypothetically, spend so much right before an election, making it more expensive for the next President and his board to put up a "down payment"? This could also be controlled with internal controls, yeah?

It could also hire an independent external accounting firm to audit transaction/behavior leading up to reelection.

To be clear, the purpose that stepping down serves could also be accomplished by introducing stricter internal controls/using an external accounting auditing firm. It is not as if Yuste, Laporta's bro, being in charge, will somehow prevent wrong-doing. :lol:
 

Loki

Well-known member
The same limitations on Yuste could apply to Laporta too.
No, it's still a big difference. Everything Yuste does from now on, he does it under his own name. Everything Laporta would do, he would also do it for his own purpose and thus influence the election. Both candidates need to have the same rights and conditions. You can't limit Laporta to a level he can't do anything anymore, because that would cripple the club in that period. There is still work to be done, but not from Laporta for said reasons.

You are insinuating that the current board could, hypothetically, spend so much right before an election, making it more expensive for the next President and his board to put up a "down payment"? This could also be controlled with internal controls, yeah?

It could also hire an independent external accounting firm to audit transaction/behavior leading up to reelection.
No, I'm just saying each board has its own financial year and all the contracts and other legal bindings that come with it. A new board needs to start exactly when the new financial year starts and that is July the first.

To be clear, the purpose that stepping down serves could also be accomplished by introducing stricter internal controls/using an external accounting auditing firm. It is not as if Yuste, Laporta's bro, being in charge, will somehow prevent wrong-doing
No, it can't. Even with minimal room to act, Laporta or any president could use it to influence the election. And you can't completely shut down the club's administration either during that period. It's good as it is, because it guarantees the candidates same chances. If Yuste does something now, he does it in his own name.

PS: And even if you would block Laporta from doing anything, why should he remain president only in name then? It wouldn't make any sense.
 

delancey

Senior Member
No, it's still a big difference. Everything Yuste does from now on, he does it under his own name. Everything Laporta would do, he would also do it for his own purpose and thus influence the election. Both candidates need to have the same rights and conditions. You can't limit Laporta to a level he can't do anything anymore, because that would cripple the club in that period. There is still work to be done, but not from Laporta for said reasons.

First, you seem to be insinuating that there's a difference between Laporta and Yuste simply because they are two separate individuals. I.e., put Yuste in charge and this somehow improves transparency and fairness! To that I say, Trump and JD Vance are two separate individuals too, does that mean that if Trump stepped down before a reelection, hypothetically, JD Vance could be trusted to remain impartial? Are actions taken really just under JD Vance's name?

Point being, having separate individuals in charge does not necessarily result in impartiality if they are already connected/part of the same team from the beginning.

Second, as for being able to do one's job, strict internal controls would not limit his ability to do his job, but rather limit Laporta's ability to take action which would result in an unfair advantage during the election. These limitations exist for Yuste too, I am sure!

No, I'm just saying each board has its own financial year and all the contracts and other legal bindings that come with it. A new board needs to start exactly when the new financial year starts and that is July the first.
And why is this relevant? The new financial year begins on July 1 whether Yuste or Laporta is in charge. Maybe I am misunderstanding you?
No, it can't. Even with minimal room to act, Laporta or any president could use it to influence the election. And you can't completely shut down the club's administration either during that period. It's good as it is, because it guarantees the candidates same chances. If Yuste does something now, he does it in his own name.

PS: And even if you would block Laporta from doing anything, why should he remain president only in name then? It wouldn't make any sense.
There are 100s of professional clubs around the club which rely on internal controls, checks and balances to ensure that re leftions are fair, honest and open.

No one said anything about shutting down the club's administration or limiting the club from operating at 100 %, but rather that internal limitations, checks and balances, and higher scrutiny serves the same purpose as having the President step down.

In fact, I prefer my proposal, for however you twist and turn, it results in impartiality, transparency and fairness without the leader of one of the biggest club in the world having to step down for x months.
 
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Loki

Well-known member
In fact, I prefer my proposal, for however you twist and turn, it results in impartiality, transparency and fairness without the leader of one of the biggest club in the world having to step down for x months.
I just told you the official reasons, you don't have to like them, but I understand them. Conflict of interest is above everything and all logic. Having the president at the club during election breeds insinuations and gives the opposition reasons to attack him. Nobody needs that, the club must be ruled in peace, especially if the election is during the hot phase of the season. What Yuste does or not for Laporta during this time is a different matter. We're talking strictly about the general club's politics.

And again, heavily limiting Laporta's power during that period is practically the same as stepping down for the time being.

And why is this relevant?
I told you. Each financial year has tons of financial and contractual bindings and responsibilities, that a new board obviously doesn't want to take over as their own.
 

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