Hans-Dieter Flick

[BusiTheKing]

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I find it endlessly annoying how Flick has convinced himself (and some fans along with him) that our high line is what allows us to score many goals.

Theoretically it is understandable the thought that it allows us to win the ball high and launch a quick direct counter with a few passes. But if you look at the goals we score, it is simply very difficult to make this connection in any convincing way.

And how does his cherished offside trap figure in this supposed connection? If it works, the ball gets returned to us as a free kick after a delay. Is that supposed to let us catch the opponent off guard?

To make this argument in a way that supposes the three goals we scored as a corollary to the three we conceded, to see it as two sides of the same coin, is delusional.

 

[BJJ]

Flick: “We want to play according to our DNA”

Hansi Flick on the draw:

“Today we saw Champions League football. Brugge did very well — we had no pressure on the ball in midfield and didn’t win our duels. That makes it difficult for the back line to defend against such fast players. We have to work on that, analyze everything. We’ll talk with the players. A 3–3 draw isn’t the best result for us. The positive thing is that we came back after every goal, but we have to talk about this game.”

… on a possible defensive adjustment, since the back four is increasingly being played through and the offside trap is working less often:
“We could do it in a way where we barricade ourselves at the back and defend in the final third. Or we keep following our path, stick to our philosophy, and do things better. Without intensity, you have no chance in the Champions League. Every team is capable of playing and transitioning very quickly. Brugge did that very well — just as we expected and told the players. If you look at the first goal: last season, for me, that would have been clearly one or two meters offside, 100 percent. We’re struggling a bit there, lacking confidence. Of course, we can talk now about changing everything, but I’m not that kind of coach — we want to play according to our DNA. We don’t want to defend deep and win 1–0 through counterattacks. We are Barça — our playing style is to be active and intense, with and without the ball. That’s something we’re currently missing at times. It’s not about the philosophy.”

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I find it endlessly annoying how Flick has convinced himself (and some fans along with him) that our high line is what allows us to score many goals.

Theoretically it is understandable the thought that it allows us to win the ball high and launch a quick direct counter with a few passes. But if you look at the goals we score, it is simply very difficult to make this connection in any convincing way.

And how does his cherished offside trap figure in this supposed connection? If it works, the ball gets returned to us as a free kick after a delay. Is that supposed to let us catch the opponent off guard?

To make this argument in a way that supposes the three goals we scored as a corollary to the three we conceded, to see it as two sides of the same coin, is delusional.
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I find Flick to be honest and straight forward. Nothing wrong said there. Xavi already played that shitty style of football and he didn't set the world on fire. First of all to play that deeper line of defence you need a back line that actually knows how to defend and won't crumble under pressure . This squad was built for attacking football, not park the bus shit.
Also Laporta has to deliver the right players if he wants attacking and winning football. The current squad needs upgrades badly.

 

[JohnN]

why do we need to either go full kamikaze or low block double decker. this is a strawman by flick. no one expects barca to low block defense, we will fail. what about some balance? I know, its an extremist proposition...

 

[BJJ]

why do we need to either go full kamikaze or low block double decker. this is a strawman by flick. no one expects barca to low block defense, we will fail. what about some balance? I know, its an extremist proposition...

One, it's Flicks style. I don't think he even knows how to coach a more cautious style of play.
Two, our players are so thick they probably would get confused. I think he's trying to keep it as simple as possible.
If you looked at the team under Xavi, they looked confused half of the time and Xavi would have meltdowns when they couldn't follow instructions.

 

[JohnN]

One, it's Flicks style. I don't think he even knows how to coach a more cautious style of play.
Two, our players are so thick they probably would get confused. I think he's trying to keep it as simple as possible.
If you looked at the team under Xavi, they looked confused half of the time and Xavi would have meltdowns when they couldn't follow instructions.

the also look confused when we lose the ball. everyone looking at each other instead of the ball, to understand if they should move forward for offside or fall back.
it's like watching a sitcom.

 

[ZenI]

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[BJJ]

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You do realise that Arteta has been at Arsenal for nearly 7 years and has spent a billion euros or close to it?
How many trophies has he won?

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Just make adjustment for the moment when team is physically struggling to keep up. Go back to the higher line, when they are physically fit enough again. Right now it's just suicide line. We leak easy chances all the time and it's so hard for us to score.

 

[Loki]

Flick said, first goal yesterday would have been offside last season and he's right. Just look at this. First of all, how can he be alone in that position, having all the time in the world to make that through pass. It's already bad enough that Balde needs to engage him, frees up even more space and makes it easier. Why isn't there any midfielder or Rashford pressing this guy?
Secondly, backline is reacting way too slow. Mentally and physically. They could have easily put him offside, because Forbs is in their line of sight. It's amateurish mistakes, that didn't happen last season, because the team is mentally and physically too slow in the important situations. It doesn't matter who the opponent is, even a third division side will score against you, if you defend through passes like this.

The positioning, mental and physical speed from Barca is on amateur level here, so Brugge easily scores. And what makes it even worse is, this is just 5 minutes into the game, so no excuses about fatigue.

 

[Gaudi]

Lets see all the goals: so what defender can stop that? Would Tah stopped that?
First goal is even better in video format, they all move in opposite directions, quite synchronized I may add. So it is practiced.
3 goal is like NFL, you can just kick the ball and bodies will run to it, space all over the field.

 

[freetocan]

There are many players who do not play well, so we should get rid of them sooner than later. I would mention just few: Kounde, Araujo, fdj, Casado, ferran torres, NO please NO make permanet. This guy did zero in the last game with Brugge.
I just read that Barca got an offer from an Arab club of 35m to sell Lewanflopski in January. That would be a good opportunity. To get some money for him and get rid of his high salary. Hope the Barca management has still a minimum brain to do that. Anyway he has to leave.
Sell as much as you can and bring in the most complete striker - in my opinion - Victor Osimhen. He ticks all the boxes: speed, ball control, head ball, stron shoot, agresivity, demarcation. This guy beat anybody including Mbappe, Haaland, Julian Alvarez, etc. NO one is better than him at the moment. It might cost somewhere around 80-100mEuro but makes all money.

 

[Masetro10]

There are many players who do not play well, so we should get rid of them sooner than later. I would mention just few: Kounde, Araujo, fdj, Casado, ferran torres, NO please NO make permanet. This guy did zero in the last game with Brugge.
I just read that Barca got an offer from an Arab club of 35m to sell Lewanflopski in January. That would be a good opportunity. To get some money for him and get rid of his high salary. Hope the Barca management has still a minimum brain to do that. Anyway he has to leave.
Sell as much as you can and bring in the most complete striker - in my opinion - Victor Osimhen. He ticks all the boxes: speed, ball control, head ball, stron shoot, agresivity, demarcation. This guy beat anybody including Mbappe, Haaland, Julian Alvarez, etc. NO one is better than him at the moment. It might cost somewhere around 80-100mEuro but makes all money.

If we can get Osimhen yes please we need someone in their prime.

 

[Masetro10]

Hansi suddenly became Ange Postecoglu overnight because apparently he is going to ride or die with this dumb as hell high line. Buddy the party is over. Change your strategy or get out

 

[Messi983]

According to Uefa, we ran 105 km today. In comparison, we ran 125 km in 90 min against Bayern last seaosn. It's not a tactical problem, but a physical one. WIthout intensity and running, you can't win. It's that simple. It's not about individual players or the tactic, it's about the physical state of the team. It's like night and day to last season.

It says 113,7 here

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It's evident we are in worse physical state this season but distance covered also depends on how the game is going.

We had 71% possesion last night playing mostly in Brugge's half so it's expected we'll run less than in a gung ho game against likes of Bayern.

 

[Messi983]

Hansi suddenly became Ange Postecoglu overnight because apparently he is going to ride or die with this dumb as hell high line. Buddy the party is over. Change your strategy or get out

He already said we are Barca and he won't change anything.

Also said main reason we are struggling is lack of intensity so nothing wrong with his tactics. It will be a slow death this season unless Lamine (and Raphi if he'll ever be fit again) can continue to carry us.