Hans-Dieter Flick
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Raketa10
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Another problem is that Rashford can't press even if his life depended on it and Fermin as good as he is attacking wise he also lacks pressing in his game. Furthermore, Garcia is injured, Lewa is one year older and was injured, Olmo is horrible, Raphinha is injured, Inigo is in Arabia and Kounde is unbelievably bad.
With all that in mind playing in the same way we played last season is just unbelievably dumb.
With all that in mind playing in the same way we played last season is just unbelievably dumb.
HeadElastico
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My conclusion after one and a quarter seasons here is unfortunately the worst one for us - which is that he doesn't actually know how to play any other way. He never showed anything but this exact same approach in Bayern as well as in the German NT.
And then if you don't actually know how to do anything else - you just go deeper and deeper into the one thing you do know (and worked before) and stubbornly try to make it work.
Richard.H
Senior Member
There is not much he can work with. Too many injuries and no real reinforcements in any position except GK. I feel sad for him, but this club is addicted to stupidity.
I predict he will start playing regular defense/no offside trap soon but I fear that he's playing this way because regular 4-3-3 might be even worse.
I predict he will start playing regular defense/no offside trap soon but I fear that he's playing this way because regular 4-3-3 might be even worse.
Iniesta Ultra
Senior Member
I'd get rid of Flick now.
serghei
Senior Member
This argument doesn't hold water mate. It's not acceptable to ship in 7 vs Brugges and Sevilla ffs. We're talking 7 conceded, but should have been 8 (4 today), and Brugges and Sevilla missed 4-5 easy goals combined.
I mean, it gets very sily very fast.
Last season's defense was a 6/10 at best. If that's our best form of defense under him, it's a terrible plan. That shite should improve, not go down even more to comical levels.
I mean, it gets very sily very fast.
Last season's defense was a 6/10 at best. If that's our best form of defense under him, it's a terrible plan. That shite should improve, not go down even more to comical levels.
malvolio
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HeadElastico
Active member
Look I never saw Flick as a long term or legacy coach. I looked forward to one or two seasons of kamakazi football and anything to get out of our Barca DNA bs.
It worked for a season and I think this will be his last one here.
Kamakazi football is a great approach when you have not much to lose - a you g team, no big names and no funds to buy players. Just outrun and go crazy every time you get on the pitch.
Long term team building will never work with that approach and I think that's fine. Flick gave us what we needed last season. Now with the camp nou opening and a couple of WC talents like Pedri and Lamine (and fdj) - we should look to finding a coach we can build with for the medium term to long term.
It worked for a season and I think this will be his last one here.
Kamakazi football is a great approach when you have not much to lose - a you g team, no big names and no funds to buy players. Just outrun and go crazy every time you get on the pitch.
Long term team building will never work with that approach and I think that's fine. Flick gave us what we needed last season. Now with the camp nou opening and a couple of WC talents like Pedri and Lamine (and fdj) - we should look to finding a coach we can build with for the medium term to long term.
serghei
Senior Member
There's also the terrible thought of us putting up a disasterclass defending performance vs an inspired elite side and then getting stuffed by conceding 6-7 goals. If you defend like that and Brugges can score 4, what stops a full form Bayern from scoring 7?
Only reason PSG won't do it is because Lucho is there and they will show mercy.
Only reason PSG won't do it is because Lucho is there and they will show mercy.
JohnN
Senior Member
literally any team playing first division football can score 4 or more against us. every attack any opponent makes looks deadly. we are wide open all game long. it's so risky it isn't worth it.
serghei
Senior Member
He's a very young manager, and needs to make the first attempts to leave the idealized fantasy of his football and try to change things. Often, managers discover appreciation for different things in time, they understand that defending properly has its own merits, and is very important part of football.
I myself as a fan was like this 15 years ago, used to sniff at teams defending and being pragmatic, but in years and years of watching football, you understand the work and the merits behind that part of the game also.
I myself as a fan was like this 15 years ago, used to sniff at teams defending and being pragmatic, but in years and years of watching football, you understand the work and the merits behind that part of the game also.
Obiaseti
Member
With the trade offs he's making our attack should be a lot sharper and more fluid which we clearly are not with personnel changing so often. Not entirely his fault but it's what we've been dealt. This is compounded by a clear increase in unforced errors and turnovers by individuals all over. Transitions should be way quicker and more precise for this kind of play to work out (See Raphinha).
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