Hans-Dieter Flick

Hansi Flick - how do we rate him?


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JamDav1982

Senior Member
They absolutely do they just have competent defenders and don't get exposed like balde 15 times a game

Absolutely false... Pep teams were nowhere near as extreme or anywhere close to trying to catch teams offside as early and as high up as often as Barca now.

Been to games.. watched the games.. it is not even close to what Flick is doing.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Not one team on the face of the earth defendes like Barcelona.

If anyone thinks arsenal defends like us, they are lacking some serious ball knowledge.

No team uses pressing & then the offside trap as their first two means to defend, which necessitates a very extreme high line.

They press yes, but once the press fails, the adjust their shape, flick just says okay, well I'll step up a bit more once that happens
 
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jamrock

Senior Member
No defense that has ever existed or will ever exist could have stopped what happened against Atletico.

Which is why, while the players were awful, I'm not blaming them; that match was a perfect example of tactical ineptitude by a manager.

We've seen it before: in his second season at Bayern, teams started to figure out his system more.

We all know what happened at the WC.

We've seen multiple games this season where teams now know what we all knew last season and took the summer to figure it out.

Every time we lose, the playbook is exactly the same. If we are beaten in the exact same way every time, it tells you that while the system is good and fun to watch, it has very obvious weaknesses.

To conclude, no team plays like us, and when we play like we did against Atletico, no defense can help us.

But let's win this freaking league!!
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Flicks tactics contribute to it but also the players... ultimately on Flick though midweek.

He isnt telling Joan Garcia to let ball go under his feet or Balde to be out of position as much as was.

From how set it up it appeared he wanted Casado on front of defence and Frenkie to get higher up but didnt work and left the defence already creaking exposed on counter.

The midfield was an unfit looking Frenkie with Casado or Olmo and just didnt work.

The shape of team didnt exist.

The front players did nothing to help it either. None of Fermin, Ferran, Yamal or Lewa could in any way help take pressure off and kept going for jugular and losing it.

The biggest criticism of Flick form midweek is it was poor set up and he surely could see players struggling with it and didnt change it.

Put Frenkie back beside Casado and on front of defence.. play them as a pair if Casado struggling and Frenkie not looking even fit enough to get up and down park.

Put the defensive line back a bit and allow them to mark opposition for a bit.

Do something.. dont wait for it to be 3 or 4-0 when everyone watching could see way game was going.

But he waited until game was gone to make changes.

Its all good him supposedly blaming players the next day but those players when struggling need to be helped.
 

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