Camp Nou

jamrock

jamrock

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It should also be noted, that the same people who talk shit now about the stadium are the same ones who talked non Sense about the levers and wanted us to happily lose for a few years.

I think we all now how that worked out.

Mind you what they wanted laporta to do, is basically what tebas and la liga is doing now for the league as a whole.


Tebas "Let's sell our best players, settle everything down and a few years we will be ready to go".

Mean wild the EPL is pulling further and further away, does anyone think when LA Liga is finally in a good place according to tebas and whoever in however many years they will be able to catch back up to the EPL.

Does anyone think if we sat on our asses for 4-6 years and happily lose, we would be able to catch back up to Madrid, PSG, City, Liverpool, Bayern?.

All these things, levers, staying competitive, the stadium are linked.

SO don't listen to the fools, they have no idea what they are talking about.
 
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RedxMAK

RedxMAK

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JamDav1982 said:
Jesus the clueless get worse..... just make the 2007 design that Laporta came up with and upgrade it at a later date.

Laporta is the President who did nothing to start a new stadium for the longest time over past 'decades' prior to 2021.

Laporta absolutely did not take the current design to 'another level' it is largely what was there previously and a bigger project to the benefit of Barca.
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Laporta for good measure didn’t fully take the idea of renovating the stadium into consideration until it was feasible and realistic. That’s why designs were made in 2007 and not in 2003, 2004 or 2005. You have to consider that the club in 2003 was at its lowest point truly, coming off another horrendous season finishing 6th for the first time in 15 years. With debts reaching up to €160m which adjusting to inflation is €256m and while making revenues less than that of Roma, Dortmund and Newcastle as proven by the 12th placed finish in the 2004 Deloitte Money League. €123.4m made in that season which adjusted to inflation is around €200m, simply put Barcelona did not have the economic potential to undergo such a project. In the 2025 Deloitte Money League, Barcelona made €762m despite not having the Camp Nou, in the previous year it made €800m. The point is Barcelona did not have the economic potential to be able to build and pay for the stadium as it does now. We simply weren't good or rich enough to go through that extensive process.
 
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JamDav1982

Senior Member
'Talk shit about the stadium'.

Jamrock claimed CVC deal made business sense when thought Barca were gong down that route.. think we all know how that worked out.

Back to the stadium.... build the 2007 design then upgrade again at later date is about most moronic claim yet.
 
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JamDav1982

Senior Member
RedxMAK said:
Laporta for good measure didn’t fully take the idea of renovating the stadium into consideration until it was feasible and realistic. That’s why designs were made in 2007 and not in 2003, 2004 or 2005. You have to consider that the club in 2003 was at its lowest point truly, coming off another horrendous season finishing 6th for the first time in 15 years. With debts reaching up to €160m which adjusting to inflation is €256m and while making revenues less than that of Roma, Dortmund and Newcastle as proven by the 12th placed finish in the 2004 Deloitte Money League. €123.4m made in that season which adjusted to inflation is around €200m, simply put Barcelona did not have the economic potential to undergo such a project. In the 2025 Deloitte Money League, Barcelona made €762m despite not having the Camp Nou, in the previous year it made €800m. The point is Barcelona did not have the economic potential to be able to build and pay for the stadium as it does now. We simply weren't good or rich enough to go through that extensive process.
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Aye aye.. but it took 'decades'.

The 2007 was rushed and most likely nothing but politics. Awful design.

Barca were at lower point in 2021.
 
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JamDav1982

Senior Member
RedxMAK said:
Now I personally did not say it took decades...
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To be fair that it was others than have no clue who think Barca should have built Laportas woeful 2007 design and then just upgrade it all again..

Thats the level of understanding some have.

No one is claiming Barca should have been breaking ground on a new stadium in 2004...well those that say it took decades are but no one else.
 
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JamDav1982

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RedxMAK said:
That 2007 design sucked so bad
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Indeed which I give Laporta more credit than that actually being a stadium he thought would be built.

All politics.. hopefully.

Its a blessing he never had any real plans for a new stadium really.

This stadium will be best in world... that 2007 stadium looked like some kind of generic cheap stadium built to host an Olympics.

If they werre serious about it they would have been producing better designs than that long before 2007.
 
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FCBarca

FCBarca

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Laporta talked about this already despite club's resurgence in sporting performance, financial stabilization efforts and renewed focus on youth development much like his first term, persistent & joyless critics thrive on discontent even when the sun is shining

Laporta - "Whenever things are going well, out they come again. There are people who don't want us to win - it makes them angry. They want to destroy us."

In Psych its referred to as negativity bias - amplified by triablism, personal biases and impossibly high expectations. A big reason why I especially love Joan's resolve "Luchamos contra todo y contra todos"

Makes those Ls even sweeter
 
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JamDav1982

Senior Member
Word salad again.

Same Laporta who at time claimed Real never won CL with him at Barca and he is their worst nightmare.

Tip.. dont believe all he says.

Stadium.... Bartos design, banks money and filled by players before Laporta arrived in Yamal and Pedri.

He has done well to go with the Espai design though. Def credit there. Beautiful.

All these folk that think they have a clue who claimed Barca squad was far behind Real and Xavi should be left in charge. I was with Laporta on both those claims being nonsense.

Ls all round there.
 
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JamDav1982

Senior Member
Means nothing... but aye here we go the whole world is against Barca including the council for 'reasons'.

Usual nonsense.

Work can still be going on 10 days before game and after stadium passed fit to play.. Barca were taking down stadium while still playing in it.
 
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NKMaribor

Active member
Windhook said:
As Jammy said, Laporta is on his way to deliver something that was just a PowerPoint presentation for the last 20 years, serving election campaigns. It's not cutting edge, but we are not doing just some facade work like Bernabeu with the retractable roof and underground pitch mechanics. Camp Nou is a full rebuild. Such extras can be added in another time, if needed at
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Given the complexity of such structures and also price, something tells me Camp Nou will be absent of them long term. But hey, at least you have shitload of brand new Turkish concrete!
 
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