Camp Nou

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Tbf it didn’t come into reality until 2008 which is the earliest I heard Barcelona thought of renovating the Camp Nou, which coincidentally coincided with Laporta’s final 2 seasons at the club. So basically he couldn’t do anything since his term would expire.

Laporta spoke about it in his 2003 campaign.

Him 'making plans' in 2008 was probably more politics knowing it couldnt happen or making out laid plans for next board.

That is worse not better to do nothing about it.

Checked and it was 2007 he showed his 'plans' and thankfully didnt happen as the Espai Barcelona project is far superior and much more beautiful stadium for a club like Barcelona.
 

Windhook

Well-known member
2008 was when the economic crisis hit. Nou Mestalla, again, is one of those unfortunate projects that got caught mid-crisis and was abandoned. Despite the CVC deal Valencia accepted, construction work hasn't resumed.
National Securities Market Commission published the total amount of the €237 million agreement between Valencia CF and the financial institution Goldman Sachs to finance the stadium renovations.

The CNMV announced that Valencia CF will have to repay the loan from the first payment in 2028 to the final payment in 2052, a total of 24 years, with each subsequent payment requiring more money. It begins with a payment of 2.6 million euros plus interest, almost tenfold, with 20.03 million euros plus interest in the final year.

The annual interest rate of 5.82% will mean the club will ultimately pay 267 million in interest . In total, it will end up paying 504 million to complete the stadium .

Camp Nou renovation could have happened earlier, but I don't remember Rosell throwing the idea around. Bartomeu teased the idea a few times.
 

RedxMAK

Well-known member
2008 was when the economic crisis hit. Nou Mestalla, again, is one of those unfortunate projects that got caught mid-crisis and was abandoned. Despite the CVC deal Valencia accepted, construction work hasn't resumed.


Camp Nou renovation could have happened earlier, but I don't remember Rosell throwing the idea around. Bartomeu teased the idea a few times.
We dodged a bullet if we had started earlier
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
2008 was when the economic crisis hit. Nou Mestalla, again, is one of those unfortunate projects that got caught mid-crisis and was abandoned. Despite the CVC deal Valencia accepted, construction work hasn't resumed.


Camp Nou renovation could have happened earlier, but I don't remember Rosell throwing the idea around. Bartomeu teased the idea a few times.

It wasnt happening with Messi there is the reality.

Barto was the one who Espai Barca and more or less current plans were from.. but again wasnt going to happen at that time either.

To make out club waited decades for new stadium others is plainly false.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Club was in a bad situation financially anyways by 2003. So renovating the stadium was unrealistic

They literally started it in a far far worse situation.

The stadium Laporta mocked up in 2007 was horrendous compared to this one.

It will have been a quick set of plans they knew woulndt happen most likely.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
We had just won the league and the stadium will pay off for itself. Why do some people try to act as if renovating the stadium is a bad thing to try to push their agenda against Laporta????

Which would have been the case in 2003.. no club build a stadium they dont think would pay for itself. That is the whole point of it for likes of Barca who cant have owners build one.

Who has said it is a 'bad thing'?
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Laporta won in 2003, no chance the stadium gets done, in the first 4-5 years, we had too much going on.

So if we were to rebuild it would have been done in the late 2000's and we all know what happened there or at least I assume we do.

But if memory serves me correct they did some fresh on the stadium and it's interior.

Then he leaves in 2010 with the foster design in place, now I'll have given credit to barto, because this design is better, even though laporta took it to another level

But we had Rosell and Barto for how many years? Club is on top of the fucking world, multiple ways to build a new stadium and nothing.

Now iff they had.

1. Just do the foster design, then a few years later develop the whole Barca Space concept, like Atleti are doing now. The club would be significantly better off.

2. They hate the foster design and wanted to do their own, still didn't do fucking shit, but talk.

Here comes laporta back again, when the club is at its lowest point and all the issues happening in the world economically, and he says we absolutely have to do this for the future of the club.

If you don't think he's doing something GREAT, wether you like him or not, you're idiot, which is why only 4 posters on here, constantly try to talk shit about something where it's literally impossible to land a bunch on him about.

Because they are idiots.
 

Windhook

Well-known member
We had just won the league and the stadium will pay off for itself. Why do some people try to act as if renovating the stadium is a bad thing to try to push their agenda against Laporta????
Whoever say it's a bad thing needs a fan check on Barca.

Winning La Liga was no leverage. This current era is the worst financially in Barca history since I'm a fan. And Laporta took a huge bank loan do demolish Camp Nou to rebuild it under those circumstances. It's a risk.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Jesus the clueless get worse..... just make the 2007 design that Laporta came up with and upgrade it at a later date again.. top ideas those.

Laporta is the President who did nothing to start a new stadium for the longest time over past 'decades' prior to 2021.

Laporta absolutely did not take the current design to 'another level' it is largely what was there previously and a bigger project to the benefit of Barca than his horrible effort of 2007 that he did nothing on at all to get moving.

Was never happening with peak Messi.
 

RedxMAK

Well-known member
Ok I was taking it too far there, basically no one is saying it’s a bad thing. But people on this forum whine so much about the delays and the lies as if it doesn’t happen to literally any major construction project in the world
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Ok I was taking it too far there, basically no one is saying it’s a bad thing. But people on this forum whine so much about the delays and the lies as if it doesn’t happen to literally any major construction project in the world

Folk whine when others make out all has gone to plan as if expected to be late..

The last few windows and lies about Barca FFP situation and not knowing where would play until recently being evidence of it.

Laporta has taken the design of the board before him and loans from the bank to build the stadium.. and correct to at that time.

Folk make out it is much more than that as if others sat and did nothing for 'decades'.
 

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