9 - Robert Lewandowski

serghei

serghei

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Maradona37 said:
No that's not true. It isn't just Real Madrid fans.

Maybe I have spent too much time laughing at clueless modern internet fans, but they all seem obsessed with the CL no matter who they support.
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I don't think there is a CL obsession in general.

It becomes a key thing the moment you hit the level to be able to get it. Madrid do have the right combinations of skills and mentality to do better than the rest in this competition.
 
Maradona37

Maradona37

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serghei said:
I don't think there is a CL obssession. It becomes a key thing the moment you hit the level to be able to get it. Madrid do have the right combinations of skills and mentality to do better than the rest in this competition.
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Fair enough. Thanks for the debate.
 
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JamDav1982

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The CL is an obsession for the biggest clubs.

Was/is for City before won one. Same for PSG. Same for Chelsea. Same for Bayern. For Barca to fully be back in big time they will need one and it would be one would chose this season.

Doesnt mean every season dont win is a failure though.
 
serghei

serghei

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For us, the team under Flick is getting close to the level that gives you hopes about CL, to the point of being pissed off about a semifinal considering you had it in your hand.
 
Maradona37

Maradona37

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Btw I am not hating on Lewa.

I acknowledge he's one of the best strikers of his generation, even the last 30 years.

But I think he gets an easy ride for some of his failures, and that fanboys like Temptation take a top player like him and go completely overboard about him. There's people out there who think he's better than R9 because he has scored more goals. That's what I mean about overpraised. That's a level far, far above his abilities. A level he has zero business being talked about on.
 
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JamDav1982

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Would think very very few would ever have Lewa in the debate as best CF ever with likes of Van Basten and R9.

Can be a 'legend' but not on that level of all time best.
 
Maradona37

Maradona37

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JamDav1982 said:
Would think very very few would ever have Lewa in the debate as best CF ever with likes of Van Basten and R9.

Can be a 'legend' but not on that level of all time best.
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That's why I said yes, as there's levels to legendary. He's a legend in the sense he might scrape into the top 10 strikers ever (probably not for me). Even 11-20 is legendary.

And you'd be surprised - admittedly they are lost causes, but I have seen a fair amount people saying he's as good as R9 and Van Basten, and better than Muller. Usually with that modern fan bollocks about footballers being better now than in the past.

There's people out there who wanna take this great striker and make out he's as good as all-time great strikers. Which he is not, never has been, and never will be.
 
Fati_Future_BallonDor

Fati_Future_BallonDor

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Interesting discussion guys, just going back from Gamescom and cant read it in calmess but @Maradona37 consider that Lewy was 35 or 34 when he came here, if we look at his age + the performances he had we can surely say he overoverperformed. Think to become a real club legend he needs the cl. I mean even Ney isnt considered as barca legend from most fans. But Lewy came in a very difficult to Barca to help the project so character wise >>>> Ney.
 
Maradona37

Maradona37

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Fati_Future_BallonDor said:
Interesting discussion guys, just going back from Gamescom and cant read it in calmess but @Maradona37 consider that Lewy was 35 or 34 when he came here, if we look at his age + the performances he had we can surely say he overoverperformed. Think to become a real club legend he needs the cl. I mean even Ney isnt considered as barca legend from most fans. But Lewy came in a very difficult to Barca to help the project so character wise >>>> Ney.
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He's obviously a legendary striker. But I feel he's no better than guys like Hazard, Salah, Bale, Benzema, Suarez, Robben, Ribery as talents (imo worse) yet gets treated like he's a level above all them forwards.

There's people out there who consider him player three after Messi and Ronaldo in this era. Extremely offensive to guys like Xavi and Iniesta. Just because someone scores a lot of goals it doesn't mean they're better than ones who don't.

Again, I am not saying he's not world-class, or legendary, or not a great striker. Just comparing him relative to other elite players.
 
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