23 - Jules Kounde

JamDav1982

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Balde/Cubarsi/Kounde/Eric

That is about as short a back four going.

None of them over 6ft and then in a team where as there is barely another 6ft player bar Lewa.

Already just went out CL semi final conceding goals from balls into box with Inigo there and if anything it makes situation worse.

Could well see it this season but it is plugging gaps a bit.
 

Maradona37

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That is about as short a back four going.

None of them over 6ft and then in a team where as there is barely another 6ft player bar Lewa.

Already just went out CL semi final conceding goals from balls into box with Inigo there and if anything it makes situation worse.

Could well see it this season but it is plugging gaps a bit.
Barca post Pep always been a short team.

Obviously not black and white, but do you wanna have a set piece threat and defence and be better on crosses, or lots of technically adept wizards.

Now I am not saying that shorter players are always much better technically and more nimble, but there is an overlap.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Barca post Pep always been a short team.

Obviously not black and white, but do you wanna have a set piece threat and defence or lots of technically adept wizards.

Now I am not saying that shorter players are always much better technically and more nimble, but there is an overlap.

Barca post pep won 1 CL with some of the best players in world and regularly losing goals from set pieces.

It took probably best ever front line to win it and did have Pique, Busi and Rakitic all over 6ft.

Barca will want to add more power and height than that would think and arguably more relevant now than ever.
 

Maradona37

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Barca post pep won 1 CL with some of the best players in world and regularly losing goals from set pieces.

It took probably best ever front line to win it and did have Pique, Busi and Rakitic all over 6ft.
True. I am not saying Barca don't have tall players ever - just that they prioritise shorter players and fleetness of foot.

As a a short guy myself (I am 5 foot 5), I have a bias to small, technical players, and that is partly why I identify with Barca, Messi, Pep etc.

Btw, maybe I prhased that wrong - by post Pep I mean post 2008 and inclusive of his tenure.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Barca have almost always had more height in team than do with that back four and team.

It is a consideration for every side and balance has to be there.

The worst thing possible is for Barca to completely outplay likes of Inter in semi final for vast majority of tie than lose goals as lack power in both boxes.

Peps teams have for most part have had power and height in them.
 

Maradona37

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Barca have almost always had more height in team than do with that back four and team.

It is a consideration for every side and balance has to be there.

The worst thing possible is for Barca to completely outplay likes of Inter in semi final for vast majority of tie than lose goals as lack power in both boxes.

Peps teams have for most part have had power and height in them.
I do agree with your point.

Pep does have balance. Feel his Bayern and Man City teams are bigger and more powerful than his Barca teams, though. Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Pedro, Alves, Mascherano for example all on the shorter side. They're strong guys for their height, though.

On the other side of things he had Zlatan, Pique, Busi who were all tall. But crucially, they weren't tall donkeys - they were excellent technically, unusually good technically for their height.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Busquets are a one off and Pep realises that and not tried to replicate way could play without them.

Puyol wasnt tall but had good power in air and a leader.

Basically you dont want the gains the technical ability the likes of Pedri have to be lessened as an advantage if teams have a huge aerial dominance as it felt like v Inter and in quite a few games in recent years.
 

Maradona37

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Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Busquets are a one off and Pep realises that and not tried to replicate way could play without them.

Puyol wasnt tall but had good power in air and a leader.

Basically you dont want the gains the technical ability the likes of Pedri have to be lessened as an advantage if teams have a huge aerial dominance as it felt like v Inter and in quite a few games in recent years.
Good point - they were a one-off so he didn't try to recreate them at other clubs. He'd rather they were taller and every bit as good footballers as they still are (though I think guys like Messi being small contribute to their superior technique).

Yeah I removed Puyol. What I read is he is 5 foot 10, which isn't tall or short. But he seems taller due to his warrior spirit.

I agree with you. Striking that balance is difficult. If you have loads of technical but short players and play teams off the park, it can all be undone with one cross or moment in the box or one corner. As we seen with the Inter tie where you hammered them in the second half and extra time of the second leg but they won due to power in your box.
 

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