Alexander Isak

M3ls

Well-known member
These guys do NOT decide themselves who to buy mate.
They have PROFESSIONALS and top notch SDepartments to take these decisions.
They do not CASAULLY chat with a random football person (like Laporta with Ragninck) to base decisions on the future of their club on that

President 'listening to people' around him is not just outdated model in 2025, it's outright UNACCEPTABLE
Others are building spacecrafts, and we are still in the stone age

Ragnick is a random person? He is one of the most respected people in modern football. He is the one that Pep, Klopp and others call the father of gegenpressig. Tuchel, Klopp, Nagelsmann and others talk about his great influence on their playing style. I can say a lot about Ragnick.
 
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M3ls

Well-known member
When I learned that Laporta had spoken to Ragnick I was very impressed. That is, I realized that Laporta is very well immersed in the context of modern football.
 

Masetro10

Member
Perhaps Liverpool will go for Isak since they lost Jota unexpectedly. So it will make no difference financially in the medium term if they chose to advance one of Etikike or Isak because of this.

As for positions. Both can play LW. So it's not as if one will sit on the bench for the other. Infact Hansi has shown how you play a LW by basically having it as a false Support striker.

So yeah, makes sense. And also makes Diaz an option to sell for big money, on their terms.
If teams were smart nobody is buying Diaz to finance a Liverpool super team that would be idiotic
 

Birdy

Senior Member
There are no problems with the contracts of Kounde and Gundogan (he came as a free agent with the status of one of the key players of the team that made the treble). The fact that you see these contracts as inflated is exclusively your problem.

Kounde arrived as one of the most talented central defenders in world football. He had already played for the French national team and had experience playing in the Champions League.

This is a player who was wanted by several top clubs together with us.


Let's take LIVERPOOL as an example, which you praise so much for their policy when working with players' contracts. SO, in the summer of 2017 (!!!) Van Dijk moved from Sunderland to Liverpool and received a contract with a salary of 10.6 million euros gross. In England, this is 5.6 million euros net.

Kounde in the summer of 2022 (!!!) received a contract of 13.5 million euros. In Catalonia, this is 6.5 million euros net.

So the difference is 900 thousand euros net. And I don’t take inflation into account - Van Dijk came to Liverpool in 2017, and Kounde came to Barcelona 5 years later.

Did you complain on the Liverpool forum that Van Dijk's contract was too high?

Evidently, VVD in 2017 was the hottest CB prospect on earth, and the fact that you compare him with Kounde is laughable...

Still, they gave him less money than what that moronic fat fuck gave to Kounde.
And, since you or someone else mentioned in the past the stupid argument that Chelsea was gonna pay that 14m gross, I don't give a flying fuck.
Let him go to Chelsea if he wants the money.
Overpaying is the tactic of clubs with no prestige and aura, that can't get players otherwise.
We (and Madrid) are the biggest lure for every player worldwide who dreams playing for us.
If you can't use that as your advantage to get a player, and you bend down to agents and overpay instead, then you are a pathetic idiot that doesn't deserve to be the president of this club

Simple as that.

Ragnick is a random person? He is one of the most respected people in modern football. He is the one that Pep, Klopp and others call the father of gegenpressig. Tuchel, Klopp, Nagelsmann and others talk about his great influence on their playing style. I can say a lot about Ragnick.

Yes, I know all that and of course Ragnick is well respected.

but you missed the point.
The point is that football decisions in a club have to come from the delegated professionals, who are usually to be found in the Sporting Director and the people working under him.
Football decisions are NOT supposed to come when our presi casually discusses in a dinner with a football person that has no institutional role at the club, no matter how well respected he is

We have one of the strongest and largest analytical departments in world football. Representatives from various clubs come to our conferences. Enough whining.

Oh don't tell me...
But they are not consulted, because Fatty decides the transfers together with his superagent buddies :lol:
 

M3ls

Well-known member
Evidently, VVD in 2017 was the hottest CB prospect on earth, and the fact that you compare him with Kounde is laughable...

Still, they gave him less money than what that moronic fat fuck gave to Kounde.
And, since you or someone else mentioned in the past the stupid argument that Chelsea was gonna pay that 14m gross, I don't give a flying fuck.
Let him go to Chelsea if he wants the money.
Overpaying is the tactic of clubs with no prestige and aura, that can't get players otherwise.
We (and Madrid) are the biggest lure for every player worldwide who dreams playing for us.
If you can't use that as your advantage to get a player, and you bend down to agents and overpay instead, then you are a pathetic idiot that doesn't deserve to be the president of this club

Simple as that.



Yes, I know all that and of course Ragnick is well respected.

but you missed the point.
The point is that football decisions in a club have to come from the delegated professionals, who are usually to be found in the Sporting Director and the people working under him.
Football decisions are NOT supposed to come when our presi casually discusses in a dinner with a football person that has no institutional role at the club, no matter how well respected he is



Oh don't tell me...
But they are not consulted, because Fatty decides the transfers together with his superagent buddies :lol:

  1. Who decided that Van Dijk was the most promising center-back on planet Earth? YOU????
    A prospect at 26 years old? LOL.
    Koundé and Van Dijk were players of roughly the same level at the time they signed their big contracts — but Koundé was four years younger.
  2. Taking inflation into account, the contracts they received are essentially equal.
    In 2017, Van Dijk was earning €5.6M net; Koundé earns €6.5M net.
    Once again, you’ve been exposed using Liverpool as an analogy — a club whose management you praise so much.
  3. As for your logic — “if he wants more money, let him go to Chelsea.”
    I never said we should’ve offered him more just because Chelsea was interested.
    If it were up to me, footballers would be earning way less.
    But all of this is subjective. So how do I evaluate things? I look at the market.
For example, I take a Barcelona player and his salary, then I compare it with the salaries of players in the same position at other top clubs.
I calculate an average, and if the Barça player’s salary is way above that — I say:
“Hey guys, we’re overpaying this guy. Our management messed up.”

What you are doing is making subjective, emotional judgments.
I also wish Yamal, at 18, wasn’t earning €16M — I would’ve preferred something closer to €10M.
But that’s not how it works.
In the end, he got a salary that’s in line with players of his position and level.

  1. Rangnick.
    First of all — tell me, how do you know Laporta made his decision exclusively based on a conversation with Rangnick?
    Second — people like Rangnick know way more about football than any damn sporting director.
    And let me repeat — I was very surprised, and also very pleased, when I learned Laporta had spoken to Rangnick.
    It shows he’s actually well-informed about modern football.
  2. As for the analytics department — you can do a quick Google search to check that.
    Have decisions been made against the analysts' recommendations? I know for a fact it happened under Bartomeu.
    For example, the Coutinho signing. I know this from someone who spoke with one of Barça’s analysts at the time.
    The analytics team was against it, but Nike — after Neymar left — was pushing hard.
    They needed a big-name player at Barсa who had a personal contract with Nike.
 

Nucky

Senior Member
Whats with this Isak hype? Is he really that good? I don't watch Newcastle much.. Even Haaland wasn't that hyped
 

Skalman

Active member
Imo no, he's neither strong nor fast, not a good fit for a Barca striker.
Thing is, he isnt a very good fit for Liverpool either, I mean of course he is good but he thrives when he got space and more often than not Liverpool play with a high back line with their team high up on the pitch which gives the forwards less space. Isak loves to run and gun and he will not have that space other then on counters,
 

FC B

Senior Member
Thing is, he isnt a very good fit for Liverpool either, I mean of course he is good but he thrives when he got space and more often than not Liverpool play with a high back line with their team high up on the pitch which gives the forwards less space. Isak loves to run and gun and he will not have that space other then on counters,

Yep but he'd be a bigger flop at Barca than at LFC imo.
 

Jenks

Senior Member
Whats with this Isak hype? Is he really that good? I don't watch Newcastle much.. Even Haaland wasn't that hyped
He's not generational but he's elite enough at everything that he'll be a guaranteed hit for whoever signs him.
 

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