19 - Lamine Yamal

MonteCuler

Well-known member
That's another exaggeration. It's ridiculous to even mention Messi.

Mbappe was terrorising CL heavy weights while at Monaco, at 17. And those were better teams than current versions. Won a WC at 18.
Terrible argument. Why would you mention what he has done at young age when Yamal has done exceptional things as well, and also more impressive? Then also move Mbappe's age back by 1.

Yamal at 16 had great CL performances vs Napoli, PSG and a sublime Euro winning campaign against likes of Italy, France, England, Croatia

At 17 he is a ballon d'or contender and has high chances of winning it

And I know how you will go with the idea that football has declined in past 10 years but please find a better cope mechanism. Yamal's big game opponents were far from easy and it's really good teams we're talking about.

But comparing their skills is what we should really do. Mbappe has nothing, but absolutely nothing, on Yamal except goalscoring and pace. If that's what turns you on with footballers then I'm surprised you prefer Messi over Penaldo
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Yamal is a much, much better player than a teenage Messi ever was.

Its completely justified Yamal gets a massive contract. Hell, Yamal is arguably underpaid given how much renevue he brings for us.

Come on dude.
I am not the biggest Messi fan, but I can certainly say this is BS
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
Tell me that you are clueless without telling me...

Of course, you have no clue how wage structure works and Wirtz fits into Pool's structure
Tell me you’re a cuckold who’ll seethe about Barca legends of any capacity (Messi, Laporta etc.) while dancing to justify a 250 M package by Pool for an unproven (in CL) player like Wirtz as the ideal of business operations.

You’re shameless.
 

RedxMAK

Well-known member
Messi at 17 didn’t have much opportunities and at 18, he was sidelined for most of the 05-06 season. So it’s not conclusive to judge Messi based on less than 70 games compared Lamine who already reached 100 games for FC Barcelona and not counting Spain.
 

El Flaco

Well-known member
Come on dude.
I am not the biggest Messi fan, but I can certainly say this is BS

Prime Messi is the GOAT, but his game was nowhere near polished at 16-17 like Yamal.

Messi wouldnt become an elite playmaker until many years later when Xavi declined and Messi started to carry our creativity.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Yamal and Messi are similar quality at a young age, but different. But that doesn't count much since Messi, from Pep era and with the generation we had back then, went into the stratosphere looking down on anyone.

It will be very hard for Yamal to reach what Messi reached, but it is a pointless comparison. Yamal only has to be better than his peers and he already achieved it before hitting 18. That's immense. And there will not be a decline like some think. He will be one of the best constantly, maybe not the best every season like this one, but in the conversation. On the flip side, the possibility of even more growth and him hitting more goals is damn scary for the other teams and players.

Would Yamal had waited more before hitting this level by starting for the first team, if we had a world class side? Probably, 1-2 seasons more. Would younger Messi had rocked it if he played sooner and wasn't dealing with injuries and having stronger competition from a CL winning Barca in 2006? Surely.
 

RedxMAK

Well-known member
Yamal and Messi are similar quality at a young age, but different. But that doesn't count much since Messi, from Pep, went into the stratosphere looking down on anyone.

It will be very hard for Yamal to reach what Messi reached, but it is a pointless comparison. Yamal only has to be better than his peers and he already achieved it before hitting 18.

Would Yamal had waited more before hitting this level by starting for the first team if we had a class player in the first team. Probably yes, 1-2 seasons more. Would younger Messi have rocked it if he played sooner and wasn't dealing with injuries and a CL winning Barca in 2006? Surely.
Can Yamal win more CLs than Messi???
Tbh I don’t think so, but I say at least he’ll win 3.
 

serghei

Senior Member
And for wages, standout elite quality is always gonna demand standout wages. It's like that in every domain. As long as it doesn't put the club in danger and the pay matches the performances, I'm fine with it. We were always a club that provides the full package of what success means in our field for the chosen ones. Trophies, grandest exposure, biggest home crowd (pending), individual accolades, and yes, a rewarding pay. The kwan, if you saw Jerry Maguire.

One of the big prides of this club is exactly that. For the lucky locals to go to the stadium on match day and see the best players in the world wearing the Barca shirt. When we can't do that anymore then we'll really decline. As we witnessed, just taking the money off the table is not enough to stop this club. We couldn't buy a world superstar? We just created one ourselves.
 

RedxMAK

Well-known member
Yk honestly, I wish Dembele stayed and Lamine’s minutes got regulated. Like if Dembele stayed, Lamine would’ve played less than 50 games by now and it will definitely limit his risk for future injuries. Man just imagine Dembele, peaking under Flick and then the transition from Dembele to Yamal will be seamless. Grateful for what happened eitherway.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Yk honestly, I wish Dembele stayed and Lamine’s minutes got regulated. Like if Dembele stayed, Lamine would’ve played less than 50 games by now and it will definitely limit his risk for future injuries. Man just imagine Dembele, peaking under Flick and then the transition from Dembele to Yamal will be seamless. Grateful for what happened eitherway.

The risk of future injuries depends on too many factors to say he will have injuries because he started 2-3 years sooner. Mbappe started at about the same age, 1-2 years older. His style is far more physical than Lamine. He doesn't have abnormal injury record at 25.

Lamine style is not based on him overextending himself physically. He is better than the other players because his talent is so high, and already has the vision of a seasoned playmaker. If anything, you can see him protecting himself sometimes, not driving himself into challenges. This is because he is not a pure dribbler in mindset. He dribbles to get rid of 1-2 markers and then do his playmaking or precise shooting. Messi had far more solo runs riding challenges even when young. Much much more.
 
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