Josep Maria Bartomeu

El Gato

Villarato!
They do have a point though.

How does the motion only get such a small fraction of total socio support? Thought Barto is supposed to be universally hated. Where is everyone else?
 

soul24rage

Senior Member
They do have a point though.

How does the motion only get such a small fraction of total socio support? Thought Barto is supposed to be universally hated. Where is everyone else?

imo, probably because of

-The pandemic
-Some ppl are unaware with MD and Sport being favorable to Barto
-No electronic voting
-Socios are in all around the world
-I think the voting period is only 2 weeks?, not much time to vote with personal and working lives getting in the way I feel.
-Also with home games behind closed doors, it's much harder to get people to vote.
 
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El Gato

Villarato!
Global support doesn't sound like it should matter. Presumably most socios sitting anywhere even in some hut in Malaysia are at the very least semi-passionate about the club, and would make their way to the post office without much hestitation. I'd like to think someone paying god knows how much into the chest every year for the membership at least knows he has a responsibility here and is aware of the timings. Popularity propaganda spread by MD and Sport shouldn't apply abroad either, not when you have Messi having a public whinge.

No electronic voting is funny. Any future board with integrity should set this up to avoid this predicament when bad board takes over.

That being said Barto taking advantage of all this disorganisation in the process is not surprising at all. In fact, if I was a cunt looking to stay rich, I'd do exactly what he's doing.

The prospect of Laporta being next in line to fix all this stuff is even more amusing.
 
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FCBarca

Mike the Knife
They do have a point though.

How does the motion only get such a small fraction of total socio support? Thought Barto is supposed to be universally hated. Where is everyone else?

Per usual you're talking nonsense. More socis voted for this motion in the club's history despite a complete media blackout (Most socis weren't even aware there existed an active motion), the confinement of COVID and no spectators at matches - what this has shown is not only the democracy of the club but that despite all the hurdles they topped a number never achieved before for censure

There is no point from Bartomeu, you're simply used to the facist tactics of the Spanish state to subvert democracy
 

El Gato

Villarato!
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Doesn't matter if most socios ever voted or not. It's a rather small fraction of the total, which is why I'm asking where the rest are? It's not as if they're not watching the news and don't know what's going on inside the club and do not track sporting results.
Why would no spectators at games make a difference to the degree of response?

There is a point and it's precisely that it is a vast minority that cast the vote. Nothing fascist about it and none of the factors you've listed seem like hurdles at all for anyone watching Barcelona play with an active socio mandate. The only relevant hurdle is the lack of ability to vote remotely.

Get a grip.
 

FCBarca

Mike the Knife
It's written into the bylaws of the club, 15% of socis minimum required - despite all those hurdles, they easily hit that & surpassed it. You're still talking nonsense, this is a democratic club - even if run by corrupt clowns
 

behindbrowneyes

Well-known member
The real question will be if Barto can "motivate" his supporters and how many of them are still left. Usually the haters are "louder" and more motivated to vote.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
The real question will be if Barto can "motivate" his supporters and how many of them are still left. Usually the haters are "louder" and more motivated to vote.

Does he really have any? apart from his corrupted buddies who are not real life supporters of the club
 

El Gato

Villarato!
15% is an absolutely reasonable minimum for any democratic vote. How is that a hurdle?

You're talking as if it's supposed to be difficult to keep yourself up to date with the situation. If you're a socio, you pay your dues and you should care for Messi public criticism, and familiarise yourself with the ins and outs of it. It's what you pay for.

What excuse is there for people not knowing the vote is going on in the day of social media where it's impossible to stifle anti-Bartomeu message?

@Andresito wrote the vote may have to be given in person. Which is of course ridiculous, but that's the only hurdle. None of the other excuses about awareness make any sense.
 

El Gato

Villarato!
It's written into the bylaws of the club, 15% of socis minimum required - despite all those hurdles, they easily hit that & surpassed it. You're still talking nonsense, this is a democratic club - even if run by corrupt clowns

15% is an absolutely reasonable minimum for any democratic vote. How is that a hurdle?

You're talking as if it's supposed to be difficult to keep yourself up to date with the situation. If you're a socio, you pay your dues and you should care for Messi public criticism, and familiarise yourself with the ins and outs of it. It's what you pay for.

What excuse is there for people not knowing the vote is going on in the day of social media where it's impossible to stifle anti-Bartomeu message?

@Andresito wrote the vote may have to be given in person. Which is of course ridiculous, but that's the only real hurdle and it could prove a problem. None of the other excuses about awareness make any sense.
 

messi2140

6racies Xavi
The fact that this motion of no conifdence wasn't spurred by the complete mismanagement of team for several years , nor the humiliations in the CL (including the 8-2) but Messi wanting to leave says it all.
 

El Gato

Villarato!
The fact that this motion of no conifdence wasn't spurred by the complete mismanagement of team for several years , nor the humiliations in the CL (including the 8-2) but Messi wanting to leave says it all.

That it does.
Socios are pathetic. That's what Im saying from the starters. And here we have people trying to make it as if getting 16k signatures out of 110k Catalan based socios (only 30k of 140 total living outside the state), even with Messi denouncement of Barto board, is somehow good... :lol:
 
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behindbrowneyes

Well-known member
Does he really have any? apart from his corrupted buddies who are not real life supporters of the club

Sandro Rosell seems to be pretty popular in Catalan penas and there are still many who have him on their wall in club rooms calling him 'El presidente'. Could be that he supports Bartomeu. Penas may be key since vote will only be in Camp Nou unlike vote of no confidence which could be signed in many places in whole Catalonia.
 

Neeraj

Senior Member
That it does.
Socios are pathetic. That's what Im saying from the starters. And here we have people trying to make it as if getting 16k signatures out of 110k Catalan based socios (only 30k of 140 total living outside the state), even with Messi denouncement of Barto board, is somehow good... :lol:

Don't think you have a clue of the on ground situation. Most socis don't know jack about the ongoings of Barcelona, the board or much else. Sport and MD isn't even read by as many locals as people think.

The abono (membership card) is like 125 euros and then another hundred or so for the carnet (season ticket). Most people are in for somewhere around 250 euros on average, all in, for the entire season. That's really not much, and most of the socis just have the card lying around, and it's given to nephews, nieces, friends, etc. for games.

Given that + the fact that it's a pandemic + the local media support that Barto has - getting these votes IS a big deal.
 
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