Paul Pogba

[FCBfan22]

If he is the last thing what we need, then who or what is the first thing what we need?

Please don't reply a controlling midfielder.
That reply has became a solution for all of our problems lately.

A controlling midfieler or a lack of one has became a scapegoat for everything.
When I ask guys why 433 didn't work under Lucho, they reply: because of Lucho.

Now we will listen about a lack of a controlling midfielder for the next 5 years as an excuse for everything.

First of all, he is a ball hogger. The thing you hate the most and why you hate Neymar, why you hate Dembele and why you hate wingers. Secondly, he is not a fast thinker. And lastly, he is overrated and we would overpay for him massively. You want proven players and if anything, Pogba has proven that he is overrated. He worked in Italy, because he had more time to think, because the game is a bit slower. And people will say yeah, it's because of Mourinho, blah blah... I have watched the Russia - France game and despite having good stats, he was ball hogging, complicating things for himself, not finding easy passes (ironically, the only time that he succeeded in that, Mbappe scored) and taking players 2 on 1 despite having a free teammate.

He is also 25 and instead of entering his prime, he is declining.

And to reply to you, we need somebody who can think fast. Not Xavi fast, but fast. If we have a slow thinker in the midfield, our defence will get exposed numerous times.

 

[BBZ8800]

Do you want Barça to sign Pogba?

Summer 2016 as the new Iniesta, no.
Summer 2018 as a support Cm for short Coutinho, ok.

I gave up from Ev and half of our current team.
So if we are doing experiments, I would rather try even with Pogba than with the same old, same old, Barca's Dna players over and over.

This is less about Pogba, more about me wanting more physical players and trying something new.
Of course, I gave up from classical 433 and TikiTaka also.

If other options are Alena and Arthur, I would personally much rather try something new this time.

 

[DonAK]

Summer 2016 as the new Iniesta, no.
Summer 2018 as a support Cm for short Coutinho, ok.

I gave up from Ev and half of our current team.
So if we are doing experiments, I would rather try even with Pogba than with the same old, same old, Barca's Dna players over and over.

This is less about Pogba, more about me wanting more physical players and trying something new.
Of course, I gave up from classical 433 and TikiTaka also.

If other options are Alena and Arthur, I would personally much rather try something new this time.

Pogba is not a support CM though. He's everything you disliked in Neymar and probably even worse with his piece of shit agent.

 

[Pepe Silvia]

Be nice to have a disruptive type physical player in midfield but we already have Paulinho. Don't need to waste money anymore. Plus with our rightful CM coming in soon in Arthur we are going to be good. Gotta get Alena going next season!

 

[Givenchy]

Summer 2016 as the new Iniesta, no.
Summer 2018 as a support Cm for short Coutinho, ok.

I gave up from Ev and half of our current team.
So if we are doing experiments, I would rather try even with Pogba than with the same old, same old, Barca's Dna players over and over.

This is less about Pogba, more about me wanting more physical players and trying something new.
Of course, I gave up from classical 433 and TikiTaka also.

If other options are Alena and Arthur, I would personally much rather try something new this time.

I'd say this season under EV we tried that and were left with a fucking abomination.

I agree with the Barca dna bullshit, its time to change the system but please not to this Mourinho-esque play ugly but get the result crap, its so so boring to watch, I mean how often can we say Barca are terrible to watch?

I rather we get an engine in midfield like Kante next to turtle Busi and let Coutinho be the creative force, especially if Messi continues dropping deep

-----------GOATstegen
Semedo-Pique-Umtiti-Alba
------------Busi-Kante
------------Coutinho
Griezmann-Messi-Dembele

 

[FCBfan22]

We need players that can make something happen. Not players that take on opposing players time and time again. Physicality or not.

So, Pogba is not the answer.

 

[xXKonan]

Pogba has the physicality and technical ability but right now lacks the patience and IQ and tactical discipline to play in a possession style team especially in the Midfield and I can't see him massively improving on his flaws considering he's 25 years old. not to say he won't improve but he won't dramatically improve due to his currently mentality.

In a possession system you need to understand the tactical positioning and being patient with the ball and knowing how to retain the ball under pressure as well that's just some of things you need in a system like Prime Barca.

But Pogba, strikes me as a guy who just doesn't have the Patience nor the IQ like I said above to function in a pssession system. He plays like a guy who wants to do it all alone and go for glory himself and wants to make shit happen to quickly.

simply not the CM we need.

 

[khaled_a_d]

Summer 2016 as the new Iniesta, no.
Summer 2018 as a support Cm for short Coutinho, ok.

I gave up from Ev and half of our current team.
So if we are doing experiments, I would rather try even with Pogba than with the same old, same old, Barca's Dna players over and over.

This is less about Pogba, more about me wanting more physical players and trying something new.
Of course, I gave up from classical 433 and TikiTaka also.

If other options are Alena and Arthur, I would personally much rather try something new this time.

He isn't a CM,Pogba is the physically gifted version of Halilovic (will I am obviously exaggerating) a guy that has all that great tools but isn't able to put it into use.
On paper Pogba can be perfect Raki replacement, in reality he will be a player we sell into 2 years
For me I won't mind a physical player,but by physical I want someone who will put massive effort and will press like crazy

 

[George_Costanza]

True that. But Pogba is the last thing we need in our midfield currently.

Get Pjanić or Eriksen.

Pjanic or Eriksen will work for a team that plays creative, intelligent and free-flowing fluid football. Valverde football is the opposite, so I think Pogba will work will under EV.

 

[FCBfan22]

Pjanic or Eriksen will work for a team that plays creative, intelligent and free-flowing fluid football. Valverde football is the opposite, so I think Pogba will work will under EV.

It wouldn't. Busi and Pique would suffer even more, because Pogba would try to take on opposing players and lose the ball. We survived with Neymar doing that, because he was a winger and had 2 lines of defence to intercept. With Busi and Raki's speed as it is now, it would be down to Ter Stegen to save us again numerous times.

Needless to say that Pjanić would cost cca 20 million less and we can include Gomes or Digne into the deal, because Juve wants them apparently.

 

[Raketa10]

Pjanic is not a solution for us, neither is Eriksen.

 

[FCBfan22]

Pjanic is not a solution for us, neither is Eriksen.

More of a solution than Pogba...

 

[George_Costanza]

It wouldn't. Busi and Pique would suffer even more, because Pogba would try to take on opposing players and lose the ball. We survived with Neymar doing that, because he was a winger and had 2 lines of defence to intercept. With Busi and Raki's speed as it is now, it would be down to Ter Stegen to save us again numerous times.

Needless to say that Pjanić would cost cca 20 million less and we can include Gomes or Digne into the deal, because Juve wants them apparently.

Not sure if serious, out of the players you have listed, Pogba is the best defensively not question! The only issue with Pogba is his natural position is in the left MF which will interfere with Coutinho.

 

[FCBfan22]

Not sure if serious, out of the players you have listed, Pogba is the best defensively not question! The only issue with Pogba is his natural position is in the left MF which will interfere with Coutinho.

Of course he is the best defensively. He is the only one of those 3 who can play DM. But he is the worst for your defense, if you know what I mean. That was also not my point. His constant take-ons in the CM would lead to lost balls, which would result in countless counters for the opponent, and with that, Pique and Busquets, who are not spring chickens anymore and are quite slow by default, would suffer. It works in Italy where you have strikers as Dzeko, Higuain or Icardi, who can't really counter.

But more importantly, I think that he can't play with Messi. Playing with Messi requires very high footballing IQ, who can pick up passes, make runs and understand overall play. He sometimes doesn't understand what United midfield is doing or what Griezmann, Mbappe (against Russia, he picked 1/10 or so potential passes to Mbappe and Mbappe scored from that chance) , Dembele, Kante or Rabiot are doing with France and he would be compatible with the most complex player to play with or against of all time? He would be horrible when Messi drops deep.

 

[Barca83]

More of a solution than Pogba...

Pjanic is older and is too similar to Busquets in the role he plays and Eriksen would probably cost twice as much as Pogba.

I'd be happy with anything under 80-90m for Pogba. At his best early in the season he was one of the best midfielders in the world; he's athletic and physical enough to compliment Busquets/Coutinho in a three man midfield and his technical abilities are pretty good as well. He's also had zero issues with his attitude under any manager besides Mourinho, so I'd expect him to get back to his best and fulfill his potential if he joined us.