Xavi Hernandez

serghei

Senior Member
This is an ironic statement given Xavi hasnt proven that himself yet and is right at the start of his own career.

He hasn't poven that he is a top class manager, but he has proven that he can win big titles vs elite competition. More than I can say for most other managers.

Thing is upgrading on Xavi atm is very difficult. Most managers that could be better are already locked in top jobs.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Brighton manager is hyped atm. Someone like Emery did a lot more than him at a smaller club. He gets huge points because he plays nice football, but does this because he is not under any pressure to deliver titles. Quite different to the type of expectations he'd face at a big team.
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
He hasn't poven that he is a top class manager, but he has proven that he can win big titles vs elite competition. More than I can say for most other managers.

Thing is upgrading on Xavi atm is very difficult. Most managers that could be better are already in safely firm top jobs.
I would be interested in Inzaghi and Nagelsmann as replacements, the 1st may not be available, 2nd probably would be. Arteta from Arsenal maybe.

Then you have the class of managers like Michel/De Zerbi/Postecoglu/ETH/Howe that are more of gambles and not guaranteed improvements.
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
Brighton manager is hyped atm. Someone like Emery did a lot more than him at a smaller club. He gets huge points because he plays nice football, but does this because he is not under any pressure to deliver titles. Quite different to the type of expectations he'd face at a big team.
This is always said though and reality is that its not always possible to bring in guaranteed results.
No manager except Pep or Klopp is guaranteed anything. Some of them may be a lot better or a lot worse than Xavi.

Requires detailed evaluation of style of play, fit to the squad, fit to the board, fit to the media.
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
Brighton manager is hyped atm. Someone like Emery did a lot more than him at a smaller club. He gets huge points because he plays nice football, but does this because he is not under any pressure to deliver titles. Quite different to the type of expectations he'd face at a big team.
He gets huge points mainly because he is getting top6 results with a group of mid table or worse players.
If they were 14th or 15th like they should be you would be hearing little about them.
 

serghei

Senior Member
He gets huge points mainly because he is getting top6 results with a group of mid table or worse players.
If they were 14th or 15th like they should be you would be hearing little about them.

True, he is a good manager for a midtable club. Could get that club to overperform.
 

delancey

Senior Member
Tier 1: Klopp, Pep
Tier 2: Emery, Nagelsmann, Howe, Arteta
Tier 3: Koeman
Tier 4: Xavi, Lampard

Xavi isn’t a natural tactician. He can become one with experience, but he made a mistake in assuming too much responsibility early on. He should have worked his way up… like Arteta did (who now has a strong foundation and is continuously getting better.

Comparing Xavi to tier 1 managers is delusional. :lol:
 

mc_lovin

Senior Member
Tier 1: Klopp, Pep
Tier 2: Emery, Nagelsmann, Howe, Arteta
Tier 3: Koeman
Tier 4: Xavi, Lampard

Xavi isn’t a natural tactician. He can become one with experience, but he made a mistake in assuming too much responsibility early on. He should have worked his way up… like Arteta did (who now has a strong foundation and is continuously getting better.

Comparing Xavi to tier 1 managers is delusional. :lol:
Hater confirmed :lol:
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Tier 1: Klopp, Pep
Tier 2: Emery, Nagelsmann, Howe, Arteta
Tier 3: Koeman
Tier 4: Xavi, Lampard

Xavi isn’t a natural tactician. He can become one with experience, but he made a mistake in assuming too much responsibility early on. He should have worked his way up… like Arteta did (who now has a strong foundation and is continuously getting better.

Comparing Xavi to tier 1 managers is delusional. :lol:
Wth
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
Tier 1: Klopp, Pep
Tier 2: Emery, Nagelsmann, Howe, Arteta
Tier 3: Koeman
Tier 4: Xavi, Lampard

Xavi isn’t a natural tactician. He can become one with experience, but he made a mistake in assuming too much responsibility early on. He should have worked his way up… like Arteta did (who now has a strong foundation and is continuously getting better.

Comparing Xavi to tier 1 managers is delusional. :lol:
The thing is that management is not only tactics.
In terms of pure tactics Xavi isn't that strong. His main qualities are man management/motivation/discipline, the social skills, which is half of being a manager.
Having a manager who the players believe in and will work for is important. Someone like Setien knows a lot about tactics but unluckily for him he commanded no authority due to reputation so nobody would listen to him.
Xavi having those management skills and his reputation has helped significantly in getting us the LaLiga title.
 

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