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Please stop…he is not in that class of players. He plays for galatasaray ffs.
Victor Osimhen
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Temptation
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The sheer disrespect! Plot thickens? 🤔
khaled_a_d
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He just left NT over this, how is this leadership?
Gnidrologist
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Seems like yet another
Another bullet dodged.
Another bullet dodged.
Are we allowing blatant racism on the forum now?
serghei
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Signing guys like Osimhen... did people not learn from the Ibrahimovic deal? Best way to accept an abrasive personality is make sure that abrasive personality is elite. Osimhen is a poser. He acts as if he ate the world's best Wagyu stake, and all he ate so far is fried chicken.
What guarantees to do we have about Osimhen?
I'd take him for 30m + 20-30m in variables, and I don't mean the easy types.
What guarantees to do we have about Osimhen?
I'd take him for 30m + 20-30m in variables, and I don't mean the easy types.
khaled_a_d
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Signing guys like Osimhen... did people not learn from the Ibrahimovic deal? Best way to accept an abrasive personality is make sure that abrasive personality is elite. Osimhen is a poser. He acts as if he ate the world's best Wagyu stake, and all he ate so far is fried chicken.
What guarantees to do we have about Osimhen?
I'd take him for 30m + 20-30m in variables, and I don't mean the easy types.
Osimhen has an argument of being the 4th best striker (Halaand, Mbappe and Kane are tier of their own) and this warrant his steep price. He is just a physical specimen who is also very talented. For that alone he is worth 80M+ easily.
But not for us, because those are numbers we can't afford and he won't be the same ceiling raiser for us, in comparison to clubs like Manu or Chelsea, who are a player like him away from being a contender. He will never be a long term option with such mentality, but for those clubs he is well worth it.
A guy like Torres is more of a "solid" no9, nothing impressive, a bit frustrating, always hoping for better considering the "old glory days" however there is far worse options out there. It isn't worth it to go for someone who is such headcase who isn't going to last for long.
Edit: With that said, if the options are him or someone like Samu Aghehowa, Osimhen is clear IMO
khaled_a_d
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Only Messi when he played centrally. Otherwise I think Icardi is the best of the bunch, however he was far below Barca standards.
Windhook
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In the early days Messi was the right winger, getting minutes as a sub to Ludovic Guily IIRC. Closest we got to the CF was Bojan Krkic, but he wasn't pure no.9 as well.
serghei
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80m + no chance. Not unless you are prepared to risk maybe losing 50m on him. Guy is 28 and if you'll play him in a CL semifinal, it would be his career first.
Marcus Thuram who is a similar profile and same wage, actually more proven and more accustomed to higher profile matches, was signed for free by Inter Milan in 2023.
Osimhen for a big sum would be a return to foolish things from the past. You pay anywhere near 100m for a player, that player has to be proven at a far higher level than Osimhen.
Just the fact the guy would waste his peak in Turkish league tells you there's many things that can go wrong with him.
serghei
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At 9, there's Kane if can be signed quickly. Even if you'd sign him on a lot of money, the guy could push you to a CL win on short notice. If you can fund it, it would pay off. Not in a big way, because you'd get what you pay for and he's older, but in a reliable way.
Other than Kane the market is piss poor for reliable names with pedigree for a lot of money. Risk is too high. It's a myth anyway that you need a star 9 to win big titles. How many big goals did Firminho score when he was leading the line for Liverpool under Klopp, don't remember many big goals by him in clutch games.
We aren't completely naked at 9 either if we don't find a suitable candidate. Even if he is not a difference maker in big games, Torres is not a bad player at all.
It is true that a non elite 9 is gonna put more pressure on wingers, just like having Firminho, who was not a big scorer, pushed Salah and Mane to deliver the goods constantly. And Raphinha and especially Yamal will be under a lot of pressure to score many goals. Yamal's scoring record is especially poor when compared to players like Salah.
Other than Kane the market is piss poor for reliable names with pedigree for a lot of money. Risk is too high. It's a myth anyway that you need a star 9 to win big titles. How many big goals did Firminho score when he was leading the line for Liverpool under Klopp, don't remember many big goals by him in clutch games.
We aren't completely naked at 9 either if we don't find a suitable candidate. Even if he is not a difference maker in big games, Torres is not a bad player at all.
It is true that a non elite 9 is gonna put more pressure on wingers, just like having Firminho, who was not a big scorer, pushed Salah and Mane to deliver the goods constantly. And Raphinha and especially Yamal will be under a lot of pressure to score many goals. Yamal's scoring record is especially poor when compared to players like Salah.
khaled_a_d
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Thuram is far inferior to Osimhen and it isn't even close. And Osimhen celebrated his 27th birthday two weeks ago, he isn't 28. He is just entering his peak.
You are selling him low, he is an amazing player.
I mostly agree with your argument from Barca side of things. The big 3 strikers are untouchable at the moment and settled in their clubs. And it is better to soend money elsewhere
Only case I prefer Osimhen is if we are hell bent on adding a starting striker and can only afford the 70M ones from Bundesliga or Portugal. I prefer Osimhen in such case over the Sesko and Gyökeres of the world. He is a guaranteed quality and talent. You figure shit later.
But in a World where you made more sensible decision, you reinforce defense and wait for the right opportunity on attack, though that may never come tbf
serghei
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He will be 28 in the season you sign him for. I disagree Thuram is way inferior. The football reality of the day says Thuram was decisive in a CL semifinal, and Osimhen never even got close to featuring in one.
I would completely move on from trying to sign a 9, since Kane is not gonna be available, let's not kid ourselves. Bayern know he is better than Lewandowski was when they sold him, they aren't gonna sell to us for a decent fee. Kane is not as old, and more hungry than Lewandowski and they will want to use that to get a CL.
Without Kane, my money would go towards the defense. If we could find an inspired signing in defense, like Arsenal did when they hit a home run in Timber (opposite of Dest lol) it would improve our team the most.
We can use Raphinha who is a clutch scorer in big games, and hope Lamine will cut the shite, and the stupid trivelas and other tricks, and add key goals in big games. Use Torres who is more associative player and we run the attack with these two big guns.
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MonteCuler
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Did Suarez play CL semifinal before we signed him? No, he was bossing it in the PL. Osimhen was bossing it in Serie A likewise and had good CL performances, with Kvara changed Napoli totally
This is simply not the way to judge footballers. Look at their abilities, performances, other characteristics - mentality, work ethic. It is not really surprising he hasn't played CL semis playing for Napoli and Galatasaray. But at one point you take the big step
And people complain about Osimhen's mentality but I have seen this guy press like an absolute animal for Galata in CL and for Nigeria too. For Napoli he also gave his all, until he fell out with the board. He is greedy as fuck, yes. But if you give him the money he won't disappoint you, at least hasn't disappointed no one yet
I would definitely take him but his wages could be a problem. But if there is a way to convince him to come for something lower, Deco should be on it
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