Victor Osimhen

[JamDav1982]

Lewa 50m for 3 years and 17m a season would be 33.6m a season on the books.

Oshimen for 100m for 5 years and on anything up to 13.6m a season would then be less on books.

Simple maths Jammrock Tucks.

But keep burping out '7-9 years' and thinking cost of Lewa on books is 16m a season.

Try again or stop making a fool of something you dont understand.

Lewa is on a 3 year contract you numpty.. with option for a 4th. His amortised cost is over 3 years until that is extra year is taken up.. IF it is.

Just more stupidity and not understanding what is being discussed.

 

[jamrock]

Contract is spread over 4 years, much in the same way it is at Chelsea, the club you love to point to, contact on the books is spread over the entire length including club option.

As per usual, gotta find a spin to make any of your arguments work.

 

[JamDav1982]

Just no.

You are 100% wrong.

Feel bad for you now.

The amortised cost is on the contract period signed which is 3 years. If the additional year is taken up it will be included then for amortisation purposes.

Painfull.

Ouch.. now mentioning Chelsea as if any relevance to not understanding how amortised cost work

This is worse now than last summer when you read an article claiming Lewa would be on 16m a year and were arrogantly saying that would be his 'cost on books'.

Keep at it though. Suits you.

 

[Messigician]

Jamdav is right

 

[jamrock]

Nerp.

Let's me break this down in simple terms, yet also highlights jammay's usual spin all at once.

On the books cost are all simple accounting, because a club has $1 on the books for a players transfer, obviously doesn't mean, that's what they are paying to the selling club, Amortization cost is their to make the hit on the club buying as low as possible made, that's how it benefits the club.

No company, would increase the value of an asset from $1 to $2 unless it benefits them, which in the case of Amortization cost, the exact opposite is what the club's try to do.

A 5 year old would understand this
Human nature understands this
Accounting understands this.

So Barcelona at a time of financial crisis, isn't gonna add 5+m to lewa's cost, just because, non sense, they will use the full term.

Lowering the Amortization cost is what brings the most utility to the club, which means breaking it down over a longer contract.

It's that simple.

Now to jammay's spin, which is always the most fun.

He was the first to jump on Chelsea's dick for signing players to 7 & 8 year contracts to spread out their cost over more year.


Buttt what he forgot to mention or just didn't know.

Is that all those players signed 5 year contracts, with club extensions built in, exactly like who? You guessed it, lewa & Barcelona.

Yet for Chelsea, we count the entire life time of the contract including club options to extend.

But for Barcelona we don't?. Doesn't work like that.

That's just jammy having to spin the facts to make his argument work, because he didn't do the maths when he was talking all that shit.

Chelsea's contract including club options to extend work with Amortization, but Barcelona's doesn't?.

Yea okay.

 

[JamDav1982]

Nope completely wrong.

Barca cant get round FFP by spreading amortisation across longer period than they are committed on a contract to.

Dense level stuff to claim otherwise as per usual.

Chelsea are not relevant. Who at Chelsea is on an option that spreads amortised cost? That is not the purpose of them and not something Chelsea are using to get round FFP. an gaurantee that any player at Chelsea is amortised on the contract committed to at this point and any additional years would be taken into account if applied.

Silly stuff and just inane.

As if clubs can get round FFP by putting options on contracts they may never take up.

Basic stuff.

Jamrock as clueless as ever.

Feel sorry for the lad at this point.

Word soup when cant even understand the basics.. players on a three year deal and one year option are not amortised across four years. That additional year only gets taken into account if club/player take it up.

 

[jamrock]

I could post a million links to Chelsea spreading contracts, that include club options to minimize cost on books.

But I'm done with this debate, as per usual, tuck gonna spin & use alternative facts to make a point.

While in reality Lewa cost in spread over 4 years & his argument is dog shit

Much like *insert Chelsea please here* contract is spread over all the years on books including, options to extend.

 

[jamrock]

Nope completely wrong.

Barca cant get round FFP by spreading amortisation across longer period than they are committed on a contract to.

Dense level stuff to claim otherwise as per usual.

Chelsea are not relevant. Who at Chelsea is on an option that spreads amortised cost? That is not the purpose of them and not something Chelsea are using to get round FFP. an gaurantee that any player at Chelsea is amortised on the contract committed to at this point and any additional years would be taken into account if applied.

Silly stuff and just inane.

As if clubs can get round FFP by putting options on contracts they may never take up.

Basic stuff.

Jamrock as clueless as ever.

Feel sorry for the lad at this point.

Word soup when cant even understand the basics.. players on a three year deal and one year option are not amortised across four years. That additional year only gets taken into account if club/player take it up.

So I guess u riding Chelsea dick for signing players that include options to extend is crap then ? Lol.

 

[JamDav1982]

So I guess u riding Chelsea dick for signing players that include options to extend is crap then ? Lol.

Eh?

Chelsea are putting young players on long contracts to stop the immediate impact of FFP.

They have not got round anything with any options added to those longer contracts.

It is basics.

Amortisation is broken down against the agreed contract.

Any option for additional years are not taken into account until signed.

By your logic Barca should have just put all the signings last summer with an additional optional year they had no intention of taking up but would reduce the FFP and more room to sign other players.

Hey while at it should have just added a three year option to Lewa to reduce his amortised costs by a half and worry about making it up in 3 years time.

Takes a special level of stupidity to think La Liga/EPL etc allow clubs to spread amortised costs across a longer period than the contract signed.

New levels of cluelessness from Jamrock.

Sensational.

 

[jamrock]

Eh?

Chelsea are putting young players on long contracts to stop the immediate impact of FFP.

They have not got round anything with any options added to those longer contracts.

It is basics.

Amortisation is broken down against the agreed contract.

Any option for additional years are not taken into account until signed.

By your logic Barca should have just put all the signings last summer with an additional optional year they had no intention of taking up but would reduce the FFP and more room to sign other players.

Hey while at it should have just added a three year option to Lewa to reduce his amortised costs by a half and worry about making it up in 3 years time.

Takes a special level of stupidity to think La Liga/EPL etc allow clubs to spread amortised costs across a longer period than the contract signed.

They went around it by adding options to extend, much like Barcelona did with lewa, fifa rules don't allow 8 year contacts, every player they signed, has a club option, which is what are using to minimize on books cost, which is what your entire argument is based on.

Age of the players are irrelevant, intent is, no one can't say Barcelona doesn't intend to extend lewa 4 years out, numbers are the numbers.


Yes Barcelona could have added options to all those players, but it wasn't needed.

Lewa contract was the most expensive, so they needed to spread it out over 4 years, while giving them a potential out if needed, but that 4 year counts.

Next time do the maths before you claim a 100m+ player would cost the same as lewa on a 5 year contract.

 

[JamDav1982]

Nope they absolutely have not got round anything with options to extend.

Doesnt work like that.

These players are on long committed contracts which is what is taken into account for amortisation and FFP.

Absolutely cluless to think the rules would allow for clubs to extend amortised costs for a longer period than committed to on contract.

Stupidity level is high.

You are completely wrong and Oshimen at 100m costs same on books as Lewa now and his three year amortised costs.

Lewa is on a three year contract with an OPTION of a fourth.

There is absolutely zero chance La Liga allow Barca to spread amortised costs for longer period than committed to player.

But you try some Jamrock spin as if the option is to break the contract rather than renew for a year....great stuff.

Nice one Jamrock Tucks.

 

[jamrock]

https://youtu.be/9ud228R5jTo

Chelsea signing players to 5 year contracts, with options to extend, to get around FFP.

Intent is irrelevant, all that matters is what the maths say when the contract is being signed, which is that it takes into account the optional years, to getting within FFP rules, something uefa will close next year, so no more optional years to fineese contracts.

It's so easy to see too, because uefa or fifa don't allow these super long contracts, so obviously the extra years are club options, but they still count.

 

[JamDav1982]

Yes all been discussed.

Chelsea were putting players on long contracts. Committed contracts longer than 5 years.

Nice spin on the '5 years plays options' but not what Chelsea are doing.

I am going to indulge your stupidity even though completely inane.

So Barca have Lewa on a four year contract that they can cancel with a year left.. thats the Jamrock Tucker claim from nothing but wishful thinking.

That mean 12.5m a year in amortisation.. if they release him 'early' they are applying the 25m amortised cost in that last year?

So putting club in a position of where at the moment they need to replace Lewa they have doubled his amortised costs on books.

Nah club are not as dense as you think chief and La Liga would never allow contracts to back up amortisation like that. It goes against the whole principle of it.

This is sensational.

Keep at it.

 

[jamrock]

Yes all been discussed.

Chelsea were putting players on long contracts. Committed contracts longer than 5 years.

I am going to indulge your stupidity even though completely inane.

So Barca have Lewa on a four year contract that they can cancel with a year left.. thats the Jamrock Tucker claim from nothing but wishful thinking.

That mean 12.5m a year in amortisation.. if they release him 'early' they are applying the 25m amortised cost in that last year?

So putting club in a position of where at the moment they need to replace Lewa they have doubled his amortised costs on books.

Nah club are not as dense as you think chief and La Liga would never allow contracts to back up amortisation like that. It goes against the whole principle of it.

This is sensational.

Keep at it.

Lol 90% of what you just said. Is all what you think, tuck.

Meanwhile the facts are the facts, optional years count..


Period, no about of Talking will change that cold hard fact.

Bya.

 

[JamDav1982]

Lol 90% of what you just said. Is all what you think, tuck.

Meanwhile the facts are the facts, optional years count..


Period, no about of Talking will change that cold hard fact.

Bya.

Nope it is fact.

None of those Chelsea players were signed on 5 years plus options.

You think Barca are backing up Lewa to pay 12.5m 12.5m and 25m on amortised costs if leaves after 3 years. No chance.

Doesnt work like that.

FIFA rules were not applicable in UK on the 5 years and UEFA did not have a rule in relation to club football and their competitions either.

There is no restriction on the length of player deals in the UK, despite FIFA’s rule that contracts should be a maximum of five years unless they’re allowed to be longer in certain nations.

All been discussed.

Chelsea have specifically stating their lengths of contracts and additonal years... and it isnt 5 plus options.

Chelsea just dumb enought to break FIFA rules and publish it are they?

You do not have a clue.