Thomas Müller

[Temptation]

People love to underrate his talent because of his determination. Cristiano for me is as talented as Neymar, just that one has more natural flair than the other.

I agree in general but I still think Neymar is a bit more gifted naturally. Not much of a difference though.

The "CR7 had no talent and was just hardwork" narrative is extremely annoying.

Lots of people think talent is just dribbling. But passing, control and ball striking ability is also talent.

What does the CR7 fan @Fati_Future_BallonDor think?

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

I agree in general but I still think Neymar is a bit more gifted naturally. Not much of a difference though.

The "CR7 had no talent and was just hardwork" narrative is extremely annoying.

Lots of people think talent is just dribbling. But passing, control and ball striking ability is also talent.

What does the CR7 fan @Fati_Future_BallonDor think?

How did you know that im CR7 fan??😳

Jokes aside, CR has definitely good amount of talent, guy showed he can play as midfield player (young Manu days), as winger and as striker on an absolutely TOP lvl. People think he doesnt have much talent because they tend to underrate his passing, skills, and game IQ. Look at the runs he makes, you cant learn that. When he was very young and playing in Madeira he wasnt allowed to use his right foot in training because he was just too good. He couldnt train to that time as much as when he got older and still was beating everyone. Obviously, Messi, Ronaldinho or Ney had waaay more talent. But his determination and mentality to get better and better has compensate the lack of talent he has compared to these guys. He had to train 3x harder to become the best. Imagine Maradona's talent + Ronaldo's mentality. This would have made our life much easier as we wouldnt have to waste time with discussion who the GOAT is!

 

[soul24rage]

Imagine Maradona's talent + Ronaldo's mentality. This would have made our life much easier as we wouldnt have to waste time with discussion who the GOAT is!

Maradona's talent = Messi's talent

Maradona's talent + Ronaldo's mentality < Messi's talent + Messi's mentality.

GOAT debate will be closer, but there's still a clear winner.

 

[KingLeo10]

Fati really stinks up this forum like no one else.

A complete and utter waste of oxygen with his 30,000 posts twerking for CR7 in every thread

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Fati really stinks up this forum like no one else.

A complete and utter waste of oxygen with his 30,000 posts twerking for CR7 in every thread

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People asked me about my opinion about that topic and i wont let my fans down!

 

[MonteCuler]

Football Legacy isn't decided by social media and PR.

Muller won a treble and a sextuple.

Won World Cup Golden Boot and World Cup Best Young Player in 2010.

Won the World Cup and the World Cup Silver Boot and Silver Ball in 2014.

Has 57 goals and 30 assists in the CL.

Won 13 league titles.

Countless big game clutch moments over the years. Was Barca's worst nightmare for a while.

Amazing consistency and longevity.

GTFOH bro!

Still don't see your point. Both are players who achieved a lot whilst Neymar is like 100 times better footballer

Muller won the World Cup playing for a fantastic German generation. Neymar had to carry absolute idiots with Brazil and put in huge determination at every WC but because he didn't win it his international career is shit?

Neymar won first Libertadores for his boyhood club since Pele days, 3 consecutive league titles and generally led them to fucking golden age as a teenage kid. Even got ballon d'or nomination playing in SA. That is true achievement not winning 13 league titles in Bundesliga with Bayern, where you have no competition

In France he won 5 titles, in Spain he won 2. Winning 2 in Spain is like winning 4 or 5 with Bayern in Germany.

Neymar literally also won the treble. And was incredible in that season

There is no problem with giving respect to players who deserve it, Muller is one of them but no need to disrespect others in the process. Neymar with 1℅ determination can have better career than Muller simply because he is on a whole another dimension of football ability. But also the level of Neymar's determination in some moments is overlooked by people who hate him and there is a lot of such people. He gave everything for his country, for Santos when he led them to glory, for Barça in our treble season, for PSG when he led them to CL final with fantastic performances

 

[Temptation]

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People asked me about my opinion about that topic and i wont let my fans down!

Fredo is your biggest fan. Never let him down.

 

[Catta]

Like I said that people underrate Cristiano's talent they also underrate Messis mentality. You don't stay at the top like Messi with talent alone and a bad mentality. He has the same determination like Cristiano, but has more talent.

So no need to imagine Maradonas talent with Cristiano's determination, you just have to look at Messi who is the best of both worlds.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Fredo is your biggest fan. Never let him down.

I know that's why he is following me 24/7 and react to every other post of me despite claiming he put me on ignore list 🤔🤣

 

[KingLeo10]

Fredo is your biggest fan. Never let him down.

Says the crosseyed cuck who tagged me to a post of his as recently as an hour ago

Pipe down, Baljeet

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Like I said that people underrate Cristiano's talent they also underrate Messis mentality. You don't stay at the top like Messi with talent alone and a bad mentality. He has the same determination like Cristiano, but has more talent.

i agree that ppl underrate Messi's work off the field, you cant stay so long on top if you dont working hard even though CR is at his own level, he is the guy who comes 1st in training and the last who leaves it...