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fergus90

Senior Member
I do wonder if a dogshit Barca had them resting on their laurels a bit too. Few seasons ago Barca were fielding likes of Ez Abde and Emre Demir.

La Masia was also looking a bit barren for a spell there.

Nothing like your rivals to help push you on. That Mourinho Madrid side was top class but it gets overlooked as peak Barca were about.
 

GloryHunter 007

Road to 1000
I do wonder if a dogshit Barca had them resting on their laurels a bit too. Few seasons ago Barca were fielding likes of Ez Abde and Emre Demir.

La Masia was also looking a bit barren for a spell there.

Nothing like your rivals to help push you on. That Mourinho Madrid side was top class but it gets overlooked as peak Barca were about.
Dude dont know about the first part but RM in 2012 got to 100 and had like 120 goals. If Ramos didn't send it to the moon, we would be talking about one of best teams maybe.
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Spot on. Madrid will go through manager after manager if they think their current squad is good enough.

None of their signings this summer were instant impact signings. Carreras maybe to an extent but he’s hardly Nuno Mendes.

Carreras solved a weakness they had for so long. Musta is a good talent that is going to be impact player or sold for twice the price (more likely option), Hujsen is a decent squad option with potential to actually be good.

It wasn't the best, but it wasn't bad mercato.

However, I think they lack funds despite all the talking about their financial power, there is a reason they go a lot after free agents. Back in the days they wouldn't have waited that long to get Konate/Davies/TAA and would have bought them with the 1 year left in contract. Now that is a good portion of their transfers.

They clearly needed much more in the past transfer market and weren't anywhere interested in that.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
CIRCUS FC, officially....

:clown: :clown: :clown: :clown: :clown:

No top coaches that respects himself touches them for a long while.

Future looks bright with yes men like Arbeloa or Raul at the helm
 

FinBarcelonafan

Well-known member
They're just 4 points off the top of La Liga and still in the CL. It's hardly a crisis.


They just need to get the managerial appointment spot on like Barca did with Flick.


It will fix everything overnight.

No it won't. They don't have a striker and too many LWs. Also lacks control in the midfield.

Perez messed up the team building.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Funds depend a lot on selling players. They have a lot of young players they can move if needed to generate funds to reshape the squad. Just because those players can't cut it vs likes of Pedri, Raphinha, and Yamal doesn't mean they wouldn't be top signings for likes of Tottenham, United, or any other rich team from 6-12th in EPL for instance.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
It is never black and white. Real Madrid has an ego so it isn’t surprising when it hires big ego managers and players too. Trick is hitting the jackpot with a manager who most players respect and can get behind. If there’s an alpha disruptor… well, then one has to go. Ibra, for example.

There weren’t any issues with Mbappe under Anchelotti, right? Vinicius was also more well behaved?

Anyhow, They will hire and fire until they get it right. And I’ve seen it so many times. The right manager changes everything.

There wasn't any issue with Ancelotti or Zidane because both (especially Carlo) were letting them do whatever the fuck they wanted (like not training).
Circus for a top club, that at Barca happened only under the mighty Ernesto (the last 15 years at least, I don't know what was happening the few months SErra Ferrer was the coach)

Zizou won't come, as he is waiting for France NT.

That would be amazing. He did hire Mourinho. I am not so sure.

0 chances a guy like Klop who wants authority and demands absolute respect, and every member of the team to serve the collective, goes there.

Also he has the rudimentary integrity and respect for himself to not go after seeing what happened to Alonso
 

serghei

Senior Member
Referees. Never forget the big help they received to reach the finals.

Like this? :lol:

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khaled_a_d

Senior Member
They don't, I hope they do that and lose more years, but they can also:

- sign a great manager and give him full authority
- sell their unwanted players for big fees
- splash big on the market
- form a new cycle because they have more money than us, far more.

The bad part is all of their poor players will be easily sold for big fees. There is money in the market and many teams would jump at them. Many would jump at Bellingham, Vinicius, Rodrigo, Tchouameni.

Whatever they decide to sell they will get huge funds from those deals and could invest those very effectively if they land a top manager.

He is one of the GOAT club presidents. However, there is a nuance to be looked at.

First, Perez will be 79 in less than 2 months time. I believe at this age, you are declining and doing it rapidly in terms of ability to lead. Like look, I am one who loves seeing old guard doing well and etc, but there is a limit and at 75 at most, very few are capable of doing half well. For context, he is older than Calderon who was a fairly old president and it feels forever since he was in the club.

Second, during his entire second tenure, he won 6 CL, 5 La Liga and 2 CDR, only one CDR and one La Liga were won under different manager than Ancelotti and Zidane. Granted, those were the coaches in 11 of 16 seasons between 2009 and 2025, but there is still 5 other years, and both were very similar coaches who are also a dying breed. Both can make the most unbalanced teams work and just work with what they have, both are very pragmatic.

He has hired 6 other managers, with Arbeloa being 7th, and only Mou managed to scrap a Liga + CDR with the most expensive team in the history.

So, while yes, they have resources and they have assets to sell, but Perez always forced unbalanced squads on the coach and asked them to work it out. He is someone who is past his best cognitive years, and he didn't do well in the market in the past few years. Their last genius moves were Vini and Rodrygo from Brazil, along Courtois signing. Since then most of their transfers was either super expensive big names (Mbappe and Bellingham) or stop gaps like Rudiger and Alaba.

This isn't to suggest they will be massively declining and it is over for them, but just like us, their golden years are behind them. They are a good competitive team now.
 

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