Marcus Rashford

Windhook

Well-known member

This is the tweet I mentioned that speaks about the clause becoming mandatory, don't really know how credible it is though.
Sounds kamikaze to me - 10m for a loan and mandatory transfer after certain conditions. Must be fake journalism or Deco is a complete moron.

I value Rashford, but such a deal is perhaps desperate and we're still in July, long before the transfer window closes.
 

CatalinR10

Senior Member
This forum has had some great female members (Petra, XMGirl, Maria, Suckabov, Flavia, etc.)


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serghei

Senior Member
United fans are in shock that other big clubs are after their unwanted players. They still don't understand that other teams don't rate their ability to properly use these players. After all, McTominay won player of the season for Napoli in Italy.

You never know with United. The player could be having problems of his own, or he simply didn't work in that chaotic team. They got rid of Rashford, so called problem players, and they finished worse in the league, close to relegation places.

I don't trust United one bit. If he played for Bayern and they desperately tried to get rid of him, I'd be having way more doubts. But United... meh, what the hell do they know?
 

Windhook

Well-known member
United fans are in shock that other big clubs are after their unwanted players. They still don't understand that other teams don't rate their ability to properly use these players. After all, McTominay won player of the season for Napoli in Italy.

You never know with United. The player could be having problems of his own, or he simply didn't work in that chaotic team. They got rid of Rashford, so called problem players, and they finished worse in the league, close to relegation places.

I don't trust United one bit. If he played for Bayern and they desperately tried to get rid of him, I'd be having way more doubts. But United... meh, what the hell do they know?
The expectations at United are huge. There's something about the culture of the club that smashes all youth players. Rashford and McTominay are the top talents to have emerged under their academy in the last decade. One of them is already gone and the other one is one foot outside the club.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
I don't trust United one bit. If he played for Bayern and they desperately tried to get rid of him, I'd be having way more doubts. But United... meh, what the hell do they know?

I think with Rashford it goes both ways.

Man Utd have just been a constant mess and very toxic and after a while Rashford also gave up and stopped caring. Not to forget his penchant for the night life there.

So in his case both the club and player share some blame.
 

serghei

Senior Member
The expectations at United are huge. There's something about the culture of the club that smashes all youth players. Rashford and McTominay are the top talents to have emerged under their academy in the last decade. One of them is already gone and the other one is one foot outside the club.

Not an issue with expectations being huge, but it's a two-way street. You can't have expectations on one hand, and provide little to give players a fair chance to reach those expectations.

At Barcelona the expectations are even higher, but we also offer players quality around them. Take Rashford, as soon as he steps foot at Barcelona he's gonna be surrounded by quality like he never played with before in his career.
 

serghei

Senior Member
I think with Rashford it goes both ways.

Man Utd have just been a constant mess and very toxic and after a while Rashford also gave up and stopped caring. Not to forget his penchant for the night life there.

So in his case both the club and player share some blame.

Yeah, but here's the thing. Not every player will have the professionalism of Raphinha for example. Some will need to be in a stable environment that works for them to give their best.

It's always been like that. Some players you can count on no matter what to give 100%, some are followers, not true leaders. They need to be in a well functioning environment, or you lose them.

It's for sure a character flaw of Rashford, but many players have that. It's players like Raphinha that are more rare, that will show the same ambition and professionalism be it Leeds or Barcelona.
 

Porque

Senior Member
The expectations at United are huge. There's something about the culture of the club that smashes all youth players. Rashford and McTominay are the top talents to have emerged under their academy in the last decade. One of them is already gone and the other one is one foot outside the club.

Mason was the best* of them all, but clearly had a screw or two loose.










The best after their very own Messi, Luke Chadwick, obviously.
 

Tyler

Active member
United fans are in shock that other big clubs are after their unwanted players. They still don't understand that other teams don't rate their ability to properly use these players. After all, McTominay won player of the season for Napoli in Italy.

You never know with United. The player could be having problems of his own, or he simply didn't work in that chaotic team. They got rid of Rashford, so called problem players, and they finished worse in the league, close to relegation places.

I don't trust United one bit. If he played for Bayern and they desperately tried to get rid of him, I'd be having way more doubts. But United... meh, what the hell do they know?

McTominay is an effective player when played in the right position, but Serie A isn't what it used to be. If he came back to the Premier League he would just be a solid PL player wherever he played. But he certainly did the right thing by leaving United and Rashford should have also done that at least a couple of years ago. They've crumbled since Ferguson retired and there's no magic cure to turn them back into the force they used to be. I can only see it getting even worse for Manchester United, not better.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Dembele is a similar example. I could see him easily going off the rails in a bad environment. Even at PSG he had issues at first until the group and the manager brought him in check, and he cut the crap.

With United, any kind of group or management structure is chaotic. And they depend on players to be 100% professionals to carry the team and deliver their best despite those structural issues. And not all have that tenacity, most will develop bad habits.
 

serghei

Senior Member
We will see with Rashford. At Barcelona we have a working group and a big manager with authority and reputation, titles won in multiple leagues, CL winner, he will play with better players who achieved more important things than he did. Pretty much the ideal environment to start working, cut the shite, and recover your career.

Who knows, do that, and maybe you get a full transfer. We ain't gonna let him go back if he shows he can be a valuable squad member. Clean slate for me, start from ground zero, don't care what he did at United.
 

mc_lovin

Senior Member
Barcelona will pay all of Manchester United forward Marcus Rashford's £325,000-a-week salary in the deal which is set to take the 27-year-old England international to the Spanish club on an initial season-long loan.

@Birdy.
 

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