La Liga Round 32: Barca - Celta 4-3

[JamDav1982]

There's Fort too. (Can't see it unless on twitter) Seems to me some of the players were pissed as they were hoping to play here, with tight schedule and everything.

Maybe Flick is being too much of a friend with everyone.

I was referring to the players who were subbed off and reasons for being frustrated being result at time playing a part.

Fort and Ansu acting like children when havent earned more and Fort after game was won also is not great.

 

[serghei]

No.. he was not marking him.

So nothing 'rogue'.

Again.. the only reason he was between the CBs is because of where they positioned themselves.. they were out of position.

It is nothing like the second goal.

There is no chance whatsoever with Barca having ball in Celta box Flick wants FDJ to mark the CF. That is ridiculous claim.

That is not when CBs get 'split' at all.

No. It was done before. Even De Jong did it vs PSG under Koeman for example.

You're just making up stuff. De Jong dropped as the deepest player because the CBs made a mistake and were positioned too wide. Come on... It was obviously by design.

 

[JamDav1982]

You are getting worse here Serghie.. FDJ played at CB v PSG.

Yes we all know FDJ when Barca have possession and team pressing will drop to help the CBs for options WHEN THEY HAVE THE BALL to help for options playing out.

This scenario was absolutely nothing like that.

Barca had possession in final third and CBs are expected to mark the CF and FDJ is expected to be in midfield as we see the whole of the game yesterday until late on when did go CB after the goal and every other game watch.

 

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[serghei]

You are getting worse here Serghie.. FDJ played at CB v PSG.

Yes we all know FDJ when Barca have possession and team pressing will drop to help the CBs for options WHEN THEY HAVE THE BALL to help for options playing out.

This scenario was absolutely nothing like that.

Barca had possession in final third and CBs are expected to mark the CF and FDJ is expected to be in midfield as we see the whole of the game yesterday until late on when did go CB after the goal and every other game watch.

You are a mess in this discussion. Here is De Jong off possession vs PSG, still the central defender with Mingueza and Lenglet wider. He has played CB in a back 3 before, and did the same in the 2nd half vs Celta as a tactical in-game adjustment to allow the fullbacks to push higher. And he fecked it up.

I hope you realize that the shape of the back 4 and the roles can change during the game. You can go from a back 4 to a back 3 during the game.

 

[JamDav1982]

FDJ played CB v PSG.

You have zero clue.

No one watching the game yesterday thinks FDJ was in a back three.. he clearly wasnt and clearly is not being asked to mark CF to have to free CBs free of him either side when Barca have ball in final third.

It is moronic suggestion. Completely moronic. to think Fliclk wanted that or it even makes any logical sense.

How can you seriously think FDJ played as CB yesterday..

That is sensational.

There is not a coach in world that dumb to have FDJ mark the CF there to have the two CBs spare to get on ball.

 

[serghei]

FDJ played CB v PSG.

You have zero clue.

No one watching the game yesterday thinks FDJ was in a back three.. he clearly wasnt and clearly is not being asked to mark CF to have to free CBs free of him either side when Barca have ball in final third.

It is moronic suggestion. Completely moronic. to think Fliclk wanted that or it even makes any logical sense.

And that's what I told you when we started this discussion, De Jong played as a CB vs Celta in the 2nd half. It's all there to see it on footage, but you keep blabbing about what Flick would want or whatnot.

 

[JamDav1982]

And that's what I told you when we started this discussion, De Jong played as a CB vs Celta in the 2nd half. It's all there to see it on footage, but you keep blabbing about what Flick would want or whatnot.

You genuinely think FDJ was at CB yesterday in 2nd half?

That is hilarious.

It is not at all on the footage.. the game footage proves the exact opposite but have at it.

You dont even understand how Barca set up for goal kicks etc or how Flick wanted the team to play.

FDJ was more advanced than Pedri a lot of the time that second half..but dont let the truth get in the way.

 

[serghei]

You genuinely think FDJ was at CB yesterday in 2nd half?

That is hilarious.

It is not at all on the footage.. the game footage proves the exact opposite but have at it.

Absolutely. For those moments I referrenced, not a single doubt. Obviously the team has a fairly fluid shape with a lot of changes, but for the 2nd and 3rd goals, De Jong played like a shite CB.

 

[JamDav1982]

Absolutely. For those moments I referrenced, not a single doubt. Obviously the team has a fairly fluid shape with a lot of changes, but for the 2nd and 3rd goals, De Jong played like a shite CB.

Haha no.. he wasnt..

As you were told he will often mark the CF at a goal kick.. thats the first goal.

FDJ was 100% not at CB yesterday in 2nd half and was more advanced than Pedri for a fair bit.

Wild claim that one.

You are trying to sound too clever when dont even know what are watching.

Top Serghie claim this one.

 

[serghei]

You can see on the images clearly that is the last central player in the team in both the 2nd and 3rd conceded goal actions. And despite all this you still can't move on and insist on having the last word. Fine...

 

[JamDav1982]

You can see on the images clearly that is the last central player in the team. And despite all this you still can't move on and insist on having the last word. Fine...

Again.. in the first it is a goal kick. You have been told how Barca set up there.

In the second he is in line with the CBs as they are too far up... he is not playing CB there at all.

You can see both FDJ and Inigo telling Cubarsi to get back and mark the CF... there is no plan at all by Flick to have FDJ mark the CF there. It makes zero sense.

Imagine watching that game and thinking 'FDJ played CB in 2nd half'.

The exact opposite was true if anything and he tried to get forward more than usual.

 

[serghei]

Irrelevant what type of kick it is. A goal kick where you are the last central defender in the team, means you are a CB for that play. Simples.

 

[JamDav1982]

Irrelevant what type of kick it is. A goal kick where you are the last central defender in the team, means you are a CB for that play.

No it is completely relevant how the team set up at goal kicks to understand why who was where and why it broke down.

Call it what you like.. it has been explained to you the difference but he 100% was not lining up as CB yesterday v Celta.

It is like claiming Lewa is a CB when comes back to defend a corner in own box or mark a striker.

Or Inigo is a 'striker' if is the target for a set piece the other way.

Claim it if you like as your way out of calling it so wrong.

 

[serghei]

Some more pictures from the 2nd half. Here temporarily defending with a back 5 with Raphinha dropping all the way to LB. De Jong, again, deepest central player.

Several seconds later. Becames a back 4 with Inigo LB, De Jong also CB as soon as Raphinha triggers the pressing. Back 4 here is Kounde, Garcia, De Jong, Inigo.

Seems to me like Flick tried to see if De Jong could play CB vs Inter, either in a back 3, back 4, or back 5 depending on in-game situations.