Jürgen Klopp

Devils

Senior Member
Maybe he should stop spending time trying to understand Barcelona's Finances and spend more time trying to understand why his team is TRASH.
 

El Gato

Villarato!
Such a sore loser, he never admitted that the opponent was better. Always has an excuse.

Excuse?
He’s just saying he thought they’ve been better. Bit deluded comment, but what’s he meant to do lol. It also helps to keep team confidence up when he knows has fixtures coming but doesn’t want to throw players under the bus
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Birdy with more bollocks and OTT takes

Firmino doesn't start anything crucial for at least a year now. Started Atleti in groups, Benfica home when they've secured semis in first tie and the United game when they were shambles. Benched or injured otherwise.
Milner is done but dont need to get rid when is on lower salary and you'll otherwise have no backup. All teams have his type of player and is useful to have
Injuries can't always predict, they've done fine to keep up last season and have like 4 midfielders out right now at the same time. RM 20/21 situation when had no RB for like 3 weeks and had to play Fede there

Klopp doesnt sell when doesn't need to and prefers working with young to get them up to speed.
Might need to reassess and get another vet in considering midfielders are mostly old

Wolfe with another response triggered just by my emoticon. LOL
Dude, pipe down a bit. You can agree with me from time to time, it's not a stain in your forum CV

- Firmino was first benched last season when they had Jota and Diaz, who were BY FAR better options and only blind could not see that.
Klopp would have 0 excuse to not play them over Bobby. But before that, until the end of 20/21, Bobby started and now in 22/23, he starts again, despite his legs being gone, and his numbers having decline since 2019 to say the least

- Milner is useful maybe for the locker room and to fill in minor games. You simply don't start Milner at md against UTD at the age of 38 or so. Unacceptable

- They get a lot of injuries every year. Even last season, when you say they did fine, they were praying Thiago and Salah could play the CL final, and gave them painkillers at the end to do so.
And the dropoff from Thiago to Keita or Milner, and from Salah to Elliot or Bobby is HUGE, especially for CL final.
That's why they have no depth

Klopp masks his sentimentalism with common sense takes that 'a transfer doesn't solve an injury problem', which is true, but not the case for Liverpool.
When you have for instance 3 players that play the minutes of 1, you should count them in your squad as 1 and not 3.
And then there is a massive dropoff in the quality of the sub compared to the starter, that means the depth is suffering.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Players will jump ship at first opportunity if they smell club bailing out at first opportunity, loyalty goes both ways and it isn't easy to replace elite players.

Loyalty goes both ways.
True but to the extent that the player is still performing.
If a player is post peak and declining or about to, the best move is to sell or not give a new contract.
FSG are on board with that, but Klopp is not.
He wants to have his players as his children always around him...
which is not the way to go in football, as you have to renew the squad all the time with the best if you want to win and stay on top
 

Zidane82

Well-known member
Everything will be fine although it will be difficult to catch up the 7 points on the top two ..

Probably fighting for second ( at best ) or third now .

Just need the injured to return and for Nunez to get scoring
 

El Gato

Villarato!
Wolfe with another response triggered just by my emoticon. LOL
Dude, pipe down a bit. You can agree with me from time to time, it's not a stain in your forum CV

- Firmino was first benched last season when they had Jota and Diaz, who were BY FAR better options and only blind could not see that.
Klopp would have 0 excuse to not play them over Bobby. But before that, until the end of 20/21, Bobby started and now in 22/23, he starts again, despite his legs being gone, and his numbers having decline since 2019 to say the least

Aye, got benched and he played either
In 22/23 he starts because Darwin is in and out and playing fairly average, he's their sub striker
Nothing too hard

- Milner is useful maybe for the locker room and to fill in minor games. You simply don't start Milner at md against UTD at the age of 38 or so. Unacceptable

Not nearly as big a deal as made out at all. Only other player to start is Fabinho which doesnt improve them going forward

- They get a lot of injuries every year. Even last season, when you say they did fine, they were praying Thiago and Salah could play the CL final, and gave them painkillers at the end to do so.
And the dropoff from Thiago to Keita or Milner, and from Salah to Elliot or Bobby is HUGE, especially for CL final.
That's why they have no depth

And they were in for a treble without that depth
Stunning
Overreacting as usual

See how City do without the same kind of depth lol
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Same kind of whaaaaaat?

City had ridiculous depth until this summer.
They now lost Jesus, Sterling, Zichenko, but got Philips, Haaland, Alvarez. Only if they lose Bernardo, and not replace him, their depth will get affected...

as for 'being in for a treble' despite the depth,
yes it's down to Klopp's work.
No overreacting. It was a miracle that their flimsy depth held on for the possible quadruple
 

El Gato

Villarato!
No overreacting. It was a miracle that their flimsy depth held on for the possible quadruple

Was no miracle
Their depth held up in league every season in past 4 years bar injury to VVD
Klopp worked this way for a long time. Instead of going to market with which FSG is also stingy, coach prefers to gamble on Fabio Carvalho, Tsimikas, Minamino, Keita etc coming good and filling gaps with kids like Elliott, Jones, Phillips, earlier Gomez and even earlier trusting likes of Robertson, Trent.
Does need more players like Shaqiri (except actually fit for purpose) but not many, maybe 1-2 at most.
 

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