Joao Neves

Catta

Senior Member
Gavi can be on his level or higher, if he finally steps his game up. Hope he can do it.
 

mc_lovin

Senior Member
Doubt it. Neves is like this due to being a bigger talent than Gavi. Gavi can improve though.
Gavi's a brilliant talent.

This season has been a write off due to his ACL. Next season I hope we bin Fermin/Olmo and start Gavi instead (not as a 10!). Enrique would do it.
 

Catta

Senior Member
Doubt it. Neves is like this due to being a bigger talent than Gavi. Gavi can improve though.
Not a bigger talent, but had better managers to guide him.

Give a fit Gavi another chance under Flick. You also wrote of Pedri before this season. With the right manager and system, Gavi can also unlock his potential.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
He's not a Gavi type player, so those comparison is highlighting a lack of understanding of his game & gavi's game.

Just a shot at gavi by those who don't understand football fully yet, despite all these years of watching it.

He's more of a DM that gavi, not his position but his strengtha lay there.

which is why despite all the positional rotations Enrique does, he's the one that takes up advanced positions the least.

It you're comparing him to anyone in our team it would be frenkie actually.

Gavi at his best in a 433 playing for Enrique would more being fillint the Ruiz role if we are comparing players, more box to box.

If we move olmo

It's neves to frenkie
Vitinha to pedri
Ruiz to gavi.

On paper Ruiz starts as the DM, but that's just because TV is too lazy to actuality show the right set up.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Ruiz all over the pitch, true box to box, basically what gavi did, when he plays 433
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Neves, setting more in a deeper position, never really getting forward in the same way Ruiz and vitinha does, just stays in CM 80% of the times.

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You're welcome for this insight, now let's stop hearing this nonsense Gavi is neves crap, totally different players.
 
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