Joan Laporta

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BREAKING: The court has formally rejected Real Madrid’s request to obtain access to FC Barcelona’s financial records from 2003 to 2021 in connection with the Negreira case. The application, submitted by Real Madrid’s legal representative Mr. Molina, sought full disclosure of audits, forensic reports, and more than 600 related documents.





In a decisive move to safeguard the club’s institutional and corporate confidentiality, former FC Barcelona president Josep Bartomeu, who is a defendant in the proceedings, formally petitioned the Barcelona Court two weeks ago to deny the request. He argued that the demand constituted an unjustified intrusion into the club’s protected records.





The court has now ruled in favor of Bartomeu’s position, recognizing the legitimacy of his defense and upholding Barcelona’s right to corporate privacy. His intervention proved central in securing the decision, positioning him as the principal defender of the club’s legal and institutional interests in this phase of the case.
 

RedxMAK

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Real Madrid want to dominate La Liga, similar to Manchester City in England and Bayern Munich in Germany. @relevo


Let me repeat this for the people in here who still haven't realized what is at stake with Laporta's presidency:
-Until 1990, Madrid was the team that was traditionally dominating the Spanish league: 3peats, 4peats, 5peats, etc, while Barcelona was a team that was winning 1-2 leagues every decade (like 1 in the 70s, 1 in the 80s, and so forth)

-That whole thing changed in 1990 with Cryuff and with the 4 consecutive leagues. Since then, Barca were always in the conversation of winning the league, even if at times they stayed away from that for even 4 years (after LVG and before Rijkaard)

-With Pep becoming the coach, and with La Masia golden generation, Barca was the favorite almost every year for the league. There were actually only 1yr breaks in Barca's dominance, like madrid in '12, or Atleti in '14, that we would steer back to normal the next season. Even teams that were better than us in a certain season (look at Madrid in 2017) would have to win it on a tie, as we would always hunt them for the league and make it difficult for them.

-That dominance ended practically with the end of Bartomeu's tenure and the start of Laporta's 2nd tenure.
Now, since 2020, Madrid is the team that looks more likely winning the league EVERY SEASON, and Barca winning it is the exception (e.g. last season)

-Problem is, that given no other team can challenge consistently for leagues, we run the risk of reverting back to pre-1990 times. You see in the news above that it is a declared goal of the cunt club to make LL a farmers league in the way of PSG-L1 and Bayern-Bundesliga, or Juve-serieA in the past: that means winning 7,8,9, or 10 in a row, without any breaks. Imagine in 10 years from now talking about Madrid's 46 La ligas or so, and Barca's 27?

That is the big danger ahead of us, which Laporta's incompetence and narrow-mindedness is fueling.
That's why everyone should understand how important a vote in a presidential election is.
People did NOT understand it in 2021, and opted for a politician selling cheap and fake dreams.
We have probably lost already the battle until 2026 (given the state of both teams right now and the short-term projection), and if Laporta does not change course until 2026, the battle will be lost until 2029

EVERYONE SHOULD BE ALARMED
Good thing he got Flick and Madrid were prevented from winning LaLiga last szn. And hopefully now we're on track to doing that this szn as well.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Espai is built on previous boards plans and future boards money.

Calma.

The womens side he inherited a womens side ahead of the curve and with best set up in world due to decisions taken before he arrived. Has since cut back the budget.

SAD is likely due to the decisions made for short term anyway.

No one is trying to destabilize Flick or anyone. Pure fantasy.

Dont moan about anything being 'destabilized' when the decision is taken for the election to be mid season for benefit of board.

This board is in charge with making those generic renders into a reality, which is 99% of what building a stadium is about. They have brought many many changes to those plans even in design phase, pre-construction, on top of making them real.

What kind of idiot builds a stadium in late 2020s with no extensive VIP and VVIP seating like what the previous board imagined. Thank god that board was gone before they could actually start implementing the project.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
No extensive VIP seating?

Based on what?

Thankfully they rejected Laportas plans completely and he has adopted vast majority of theirs.

Thankfullly Laporta was gone before he could implement his plans and adopted Espai Barca when back.
 
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serghei

Senior Member
No extensive VIP seating?

Based on what?

Thankfully they rejected Laportas plans completely and he has adopted vast majority of theirs.

Thankfullly Laporta was gone before he could implement his plans and adopted Espai Barca when back.

Have you seen the initial renderings? It's just a roof and not much else. The dedicated double VIP ring appeared only after Laporta was unsatisfied with the initial plans and he altered them. And he was right, the double VIP boxes that surround the stadiums completely are what's gonna make this investment hugely profitable in the long run. Without that you have a mediocre project. That's the thing that puts this new Camp Nou on whole different level vs the old one.

Please... the only thing that remained form the original plans is the facade. Everything else was improved upon in a big way by the current board. This stadium is Laporta's work, of that you can be sure.

Like the guy or not, he plays in a completely different league than likes of Bartomeu.
 

serghei

Senior Member
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This looks like the old stadium with 3rd stand leveled and a roof. Where are the money making boxes to spike the revenue? Nowhere in sight.

As soon as Laporta took over we started seeing new plans, new renders, with those VIP boxes added into the project. He went big, and was right, you don't cheapen out on an investment like this to save money. This is gonna be our home for decades.
 

TheStig

Member
Hate Barto but it's not fair to say that he didn't have anything to do with the design. The stadium will be mostly the same as in the first plans except Laporta added more VIP boxes which is not something to brag about, it's making the stadium look worse but I understand it from a financial point of view.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Hate Barto but it's not fair to say that he didn't have anything to do with the design. The stadium will be mostly the same as in the first plans except Laporta added more VIP boxes which is not something to brag about, it's making the stadium look worse but I understand it from a financial point of view.

That is like saying it's the same car, except he added a new engine and a new transmission. What exactly is the same? The bodywork? The VIP boxes are what's gonna turn this investment into a money making machine in the long run.

Not gimmicks like led lighting on the facade, or 360 degrees scoring boards or whatever some clueless people think it's driving the profits up. It's the boxes for rich people and corporate businessmen, that's where a huge chunk of match day revenue will come from.
 

TheStig

Member
Everything except the VIP boxes rings and I could argue that Laporta made it worse with it. The last thing I want is to defend Bartomeu but it's true.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Everything except the VIP boxes rings and I could argue that Laporta made it worse with it. The last thing I want is to defend Bartomeu but it's true.

The VIP boxes is not some afterthought, it's a differential that impacts the profitability of the stadium in a key way.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Laporta didn't make worse anything, the decisions that don't look good are necessary commercial steps, because you live in a world of capitalism, not some fantasy.

Bartomeu's work on the project is basically some renders and plans for what to do in the future, while driving the club in the shitter. He didn't make any steps with it. He was too busy doing his best to bankrupt the club during the peak amigo days.

Everybody can play with the computer and plan things with fictional future money. Doing them is the hard part.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
What is the claim here?

That the initial Nou Camp plans had no VIP boxes?

Thankfully no one went ahead with Laportas 2007 plans and he adopted the previous boards plans when got back in.

They didnt do anything with it mainly because Messi was there and at peak and would have been poor time to move team out and risk losing him/decrease what could spend on team in those years.

Laporta did nothing in his previous spell on it either.
 

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