Hans-Dieter Flick

Hansi Flick - how do we rate him?


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Loki

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If this type of tactics is needed to score goals then we have big problems
Nobody talks about needed. It's our philosophy since Cruyff. You don't like it, then you have a fundamental problem with Barca's style of playing football, but then I don't understand why you follow this club. That's exactly what Cruyff brought and the absolute majority loves to see on the pitch. Successful entertainment.

Barca never wanted just to win, but to win in an entertaining way. That's why the club prefers a 5-4 over a 1-0. Exactly what Flick brought back to us. Any general criticism of the total football goes against the foundation of the club itself. You can criticize how the system is executed, that's a different story. But to call it generally stupid goes against the style of play the club identifies with.
 
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delancey

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What is so bizarre is that Valverde, Koeman and Xavi not only failed at bringing entertaining football to Barcelona but served up the most boring style of play imaginable. Bizarre for a club which prides itself on playing entertaining and attractive football.

Say what you want about Laporta, but at least he respects our brand of football as much as any fan who supports our entertaining style of play under Flick, Lucho or Guardiola.

If it hadn’t been for Messi & co, I dare not imagine what our football would have been like under Valverde.
 

jamrock

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Nobody talks about needed. It's our philosophy since Cruyff. You don't like it, then you have a fundamental problem with Barca's style of playing football, but then I don't understand why you follow this club. That's exactly what Cruyff brought and the absolute majority loves to see on the pitch. Successful entertainment.

Barca never wanted just to win, but to win in an entertaining way. That's why the club prefers a 5-4 over a 1-0. Exactly what Flick brought back to us. Any general criticism of the total football goes against the foundation of the club itself. You can criticize how the system is executed, that's a different story. But to call it generally stupid goes against the style of play the club identifies with.

You can win in an entertainment way without constantly being hopelessly exposed though, has multi barca Managers who won things in the modern era has shown

Our philosophy certainly isn't to disregard defense in order to score more goals, it's to not play defensive football.

Those are two completely defender things, so far in flicks entire career he's never shown he's able to find that balance
 

jamrock

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Our philosophy 100% isn't to go out there and be shaky against very little team we face, which was the case even last season just to be clear.

Its to go out there and dominate all phases of the game, to be proactive & not reactive is really the corner stone.

Flick only had half the puzzle right
 

Barcaman

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Our philosophy 100% isn't to go out there and be shaky against very little team we face, which was the case even last season just to be clear.

Its to go out there and dominate all phases of the game, to be proactive & not reactive is really the corner stone.

Flick only had half the puzzle right

With what Puyol, Dani Alves, Abidal/Alba, Marquez, Mascherano or Pique.
No DM whatsoever either. Most of the season with semi retired GK too.
With what Messi? Or once in a lifetime or never Xavi- Iniesta?


With what fucking budget?

Some of you are out of your minds.
 

Gnidrologist

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Don't think even Cruiff set the team up the way Flick does. He's quite revolutionary. Pep could be consideted anticruifista by this standard. Robson probably closest thing to this "fuck defense" philosophy though not sure if by choice.
 
We dont speak enough about the 2nd half, absolutely impressive control of the game. Overall over 3.3xG while Celta had 0.58xg

We need to be more clinical with our chances but otherwise best game since a while, pressing worked much better + players get their form back

Hansi is doing his work off the pitch ✅️
 

jamrock

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With what Puyol, Dani Alves, Abidal/Alba, Marquez, Mascherano or Pique.
No DM whatsoever either. Most of the season with semi retired GK too.
With what Messi? Or once in a lifetime or never Xavi- Iniesta?


With what fucking budget?

Some of you are out of your minds.

No one is asking him to be peak Barcelona, it's a statement on what our philosophy as a club is, and it's certainly not flick ball even if it's played to 100%, and you give all the best players in the world.

He will still have a leaky defense has very job he's had in his career has shown.

Is it closer to the Barcelona philosophy that mister & xavi, sure.

But a complete disregard for defending isn't Barcelona football either.
 

BJJ

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No one is asking him to be peak Barcelona, it's a statement on what our philosophy as a club is, and it's certainly not flick ball even if it's played to 100%, and you give all the best players in the world.

He will still have a leaky defense has very job he's had in his career has shown.

Is it closer to the Barcelona philosophy that mister & xavi, sure.

But a complete disregard for defending isn't Barcelona football either.

The quality of defenders at our club is appalling. I think Flick is making them look better than they actually are. This defence would absolutely crumble if we play a low block. None of them are prime Maldini or even Chielini.
People don't talk about this but personality wise Flick is probably a near perfect fit for the club. He's strict but not regimented. He's personable and has a sense of humour. He's also alot cooler under pressure than others. I have yet to see another manager enjoy himself at the club but Flick appears to do so. This could all change quickly but I would really like to see him in a more long term project with quality players signed. His system requires hard working, physical players with a winning attitude. I hope we sign these players.
 

delancey

Senior Member
Another factor to take into consideration is that we are playing with our third preferred goalie, a semi-retired smoker whose performances are incomparable to our #1. As soon as he returns, as long as he matches his pre-injury performances, it will make a big difference in how many goals we concede.
 
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jamrock

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Yea a top keeper is critical to his success & what the team is most missing, regardless of who the coach is.

Garcia can't come back soon enough, hopefully he picks up where he left off
 

vegitot

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Don't think even Cruiff set the team up the way Flick does. He's quite revolutionary. Pep could be consideted anticruifista by this standard. Robson probably closest thing to this "fuck defense" philosophy though not sure if by choice.
I wonder how barcaforum would react if the infamous 0-4 loss to Milan in 1994 final happened in today.

Pep is the GOAT cause he knows how to change and make some tweaks so his philosophy wins most of the time.
 

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