Hans-Dieter Flick

[JohnN]

The way we defend, you can't help but get the feeling that the players have no real template to work with. It's all very chaotic off the ball. Nobody knows what to do, players missing from positions regularly to do some Rambo style press up front, completely broken apart.

funny thing is. if we just sat back and kept zones, bruges would do shit.
Flick has droped the ball and if nothing drastic happens after holiday break (not expecting anything sooner) this will be a season to forget.

 

[malvolio]

There is another problem here. Our midfield counts for nothing when defending. It's an open highway with no protection for defence.

FDJ is still a clown at DM.

 

[serghei]

I don't think he want three of his players to press one guy to be honest.

It's a combination of not very good tactics, at least in our current situation, and dumbass players as I said in the chat.

No, what I see is some stupid 'system' where players with more legs go wildly off position to press some players that should not be their bussiness. What probably happens is he instructs the more hard working players on the team to compensate for the lesser workrate from guys like Rashford, Yamal and others. And this has blown up in our face big time.

When you look at Yamal you don't see a stamina monster who can hound the opposition's backline like an animal for 90 mins. It's a failure of understanding what the squad can and can't do. Motivational talk can only get you so far.

 

[Devils]

Called it from the very first game of the season. This defence is absolute dogshit and this club desperately needs a CB, RB and LB.

Comfortably the worst defence in any top club in Europe bar none. 2x worse than the next closest one.

Flick will probably end up leaving but the fact that the management left him out to fail like this is pathetic. Flick's football isn't going to work with these dogshit defenders. It was already our downfall and by far our weakest line last year and was only allowed to get weaker in the summer.

 

[Raketa10]

For his system to work you need the pressing to be great and cohesive.

You also need athletic defenders and midfielders that aren't mentally retarded.
Our defenders are slow and lack brain cells. Kounde and Araujo are not technically slow, but the former turns around like a ship and Araujo is just dumb.

You have to adjust.

But even a dumb person can see this ain't working so why force it? Is there something to prove? We all know Araujo is dumb and that Inigo was better. Furthermore, we are also aware that we lack Raphinha and that 90% of our players are out of shape so why the hell is he trying to play in the same fucking way every single game?

 

[JohnN]

if players pressed on their own they would not even be in the squad list. it's a clear directive

 

[DonAK]

But even a dumb person can see this ain't working so why force it? Is there something to prove? We all know Araujo is dumb and that Inigo was better. Furthermore, we are also aware that we lack Raphinha and that 90% of our players are out of shape so why the hell is he trying to play in the same fucking way every single game?

He's stubborn as a lot of managers are.

Maybe Thiago knocks some sense into him.

 

[MonteCuler]

Good performance in attack but unbelievably bad defending. Sharp passing and movement but defense completely off

While Araujo - Eric is clearly pretty shit CB pairing this goes beyond that

His job is not in question. It will be after this season. We will see what we win and if our game has improved.

 

[jaype]

Learned nothing from conceding 7 against Inter. It's sickening, I had high hopes he could make small adjustments but nah. Zero flexibility, there's no place for stubbornness if you want to win.

 

[Givenchy]

Called it from the very first game of the season. This defence is absolute dogshit and this club desperately needs a CB, RB and LB.

Comfortably the worst defence in any top club in Europe bar none. 2x worse than the next closest one.

Flick will probably end up leaving but the fact that the management left him out to fail like this is pathetic. Flick's football isn't going to work with these dogshit defenders. It was already our downfall and by far our weakest line last year and was only weakened in the summer.

Bar the 2 Garcia's, I would sell the entire backline and it's backups. Unrealistic though so Flick needs to make changes to the system or we are shipping 7+ vs an inform and fit Bayern/PSG

 

[serghei]

He's stubborn as a lot of managers are.

Maybe Thiago knocks some sense into him.

Stubbornness is not an issue. Holding to your guns is fine, but we have no guns. The defense is a comedy or some sort of parody. Now of course players take the blame also, but come on... neither of them are at the level they are displaying atm. Something is seriously wrong on team level.

 

[JohnN]

After the inter games, the whole world took notice. only one person on this damn earth still believes in this system and he happens to be our coach

 

[DonAK]

Stubbornness is not an issue. Holding to your guns is fine, but we have no guns. The defense is a comedy or some sort of parody. Now of course players take the blame also, but come on... neither of them are at the level they are displaying atm. Something is seriously wrong on team level.

I still wouldn't give up hope, but some serious reflection need to be had for sure.

Both for the coaching staff and the players.

 

[JohnN]

I still wouldn't give up hope, but some serious reflection need to be had for sure.

Both for the coaching staff and the players.

it looks to me the players are also frustrated with the way he wanst to play. running them to the ground pressing, only to get smacked (as expexted) by a good one touch diaginal pass or a second run after the tra... same story like last season only gotten worse. this pass is inevitable and non definablele except if you press with 11 players at full speed all game.

 

[serghei]

I still wouldn't give up hope, but some serious reflection need to be had for sure.

Both for the coaching staff and the players.

I don't know. This looks like more than a bad slump like last season. I hoped that somehow he will involve the club's philosophy more into his tactics, but some managers don't really improve or tweak their tactics.

It is hard for me to understand how did we get so crap at controlling the game and keeping the ball. A bit vs Newcastle this season vs any serious opposition, and apart from those 25-30 mins we only have the ball when the opponent gives it away to exploit our backline.