serghei
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That's much better than passing to a free Mendes. If Pacho sits on the ball, Torres can pick him up.
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That's much better than passing to a free Mendes. If Pacho sits on the ball, Torres can pick him up.
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So then why look at Lamine if he is picking up on Torres not doing what he should?
But to be fair, then Lamine could have communicated it to Torres, maybe he did after dunno.
serghei
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Because if Torres is not doing X in that moment, Yamal should not be doing Y.
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You mean, if Torres is not doing X then does not mean Yamal should do X?
jamrock
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Want to use that has an excuse for PSG sure, who also has injuries and played 2 teenagers in attack, but sure.
Sevilla? No excuse that's a slightly uncomfortable 3 points for us.
2-1
3-2
Whatever the score, a win. With the XI we put out there
serghei
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I mean Torres not doing his move makes Yamal doing his move stupid, ineffective, frustrating, and energy consuming. These things should not happen as often as they do.
Look at this. Triggering the press, decent position to press. Check De Jong vs Hakimi. Almost man for man.
5 seconds later, poor Torres does the longest run, gets closest, everyone a mile off their markers. De Jong doesn't even try, breaks the entire setup, looks at how Hakimi all alone receives a 35m pass from the keeper.
Abysmal coordination, right hand doesn't know what the left hand does type of thing.
I don't agree with this type of pressing from the get go. Here again the keeper has numerous passing options, it's too energy consuming for what it can provide, cost outweighs the benefit type of thing. But if you still do it, at least do it with some coordination ffs. Go all in.
I can see a similar progression like the 1st goal if Hakimi is marked. Pass to open Pacho, Yamal presses him, pass to open Mendes, goes on a run in acres of space.
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Devils
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serghei
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I can only hope that next time we play PSG, if we do, we are gonna let their CBs on the ball far more, and close the easy access passes to Hakimi and Mendes by using our wingers with more brains. Not to do brainless pressing, but to cut the main progression routes of PSG. Which are or should be known by now. Similarly to how Barcola played when he activated on our right flank. I far more prefer to let Pacho stay on the ball until he reaches traffic, vs naively handing out huge spaces to elite runners with the ball like Nuno Mendes and Hakimi as if Christmas came early for them.
I have no idea how we reached the conclusion that it's a good idea to let those channels so open. Because if we play like that and ahead of Hakimi and Mendes are likes of Dembele, we can receive 5-6 goals easily. Let's not get fooled into thinking Pacho passes like Araujo
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I have no idea how we reached the conclusion that it's a good idea to let those channels so open. Because if we play like that and ahead of Hakimi and Mendes are likes of Dembele, we can receive 5-6 goals easily. Let's not get fooled into thinking Pacho passes like Araujo
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serghei
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Several of the tactical mistakes were bade by Pedri, Yamal, De Jong also, the most lauded players here.
It's a systemic issue imo. Hell, causes can be multiple, maybe they put too much weight on their shoulders in this game vs PSG and it blew in their faces once they saw the reality of the match, and just how next level players like Vitinha, Hakimi, and Mendes were compared to us at reading the game. Not a nice feeling to have, I'm sure.
One thing's for certain, we need to regroup, stop with the self-gratifying bullshit, and go back to work. PSG demolished the same Inter we shipped 7 from. They are far above us atm and we need to cut the distance and improve. I know it's hard without a stadium, shitty home atmosphere, key injuries, and a thin squad, but that's what we have to do.
It's a systemic issue imo. Hell, causes can be multiple, maybe they put too much weight on their shoulders in this game vs PSG and it blew in their faces once they saw the reality of the match, and just how next level players like Vitinha, Hakimi, and Mendes were compared to us at reading the game. Not a nice feeling to have, I'm sure.
One thing's for certain, we need to regroup, stop with the self-gratifying bullshit, and go back to work. PSG demolished the same Inter we shipped 7 from. They are far above us atm and we need to cut the distance and improve. I know it's hard without a stadium, shitty home atmosphere, key injuries, and a thin squad, but that's what we have to do.
jamrock
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Glad the forum is coming around to the fact that PSG are better than us, by whatever metric each individual person what's to use.
I hope the club and players have done the same thing, the first step to make it over the line in the CL is acceptance.
They are the one team in Europe right now that I would say in genuinely better than us, it took them a while to get there, but that's where we are right now, need players and coach staff to step up if we are to meet them again.
Or
Maybe someone else catches them on a off day are has better tactics and we won't have to worry about them again.
I hope the club and players have done the same thing, the first step to make it over the line in the CL is acceptance.
They are the one team in Europe right now that I would say in genuinely better than us, it took them a while to get there, but that's where we are right now, need players and coach staff to step up if we are to meet them again.
Or
Maybe someone else catches them on a off day are has better tactics and we won't have to worry about them again.
serghei
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Acceptance allows you to realize that you can't play vs Mendes as if you play vs some normal fullbacks. His quality on the ball is way superior than what is typical for the position.
You might as well consider him a winger. Like Dani Alves and Marcelo. In fact, he played LW in the 2nd half when Hernandez came on. Hakimi not so different, these are fullbacks with forward and playmaker qualities on the ball.
Assume he is a big threat whenever he has space. It's a good lesson for us, sometimes you have to feel an opponent on your own, by playing against it.
You might as well consider him a winger. Like Dani Alves and Marcelo. In fact, he played LW in the 2nd half when Hernandez came on. Hakimi not so different, these are fullbacks with forward and playmaker qualities on the ball.
Assume he is a big threat whenever he has space. It's a good lesson for us, sometimes you have to feel an opponent on your own, by playing against it.
PSG drew versus Lille at the weekend. They tried rotating the squad and it didn't work out.
Brought on the likes of Vintinha and Ruiz but didn't help.
Mbappe got the Lille goal to ad a nice little caveat.
Suggests two things
1) yes they have the luxury to rotate in Ligue1 but at this stage of the campaign it doesn't help. And side note, Lille played Europa League Thursday.
2) Our game also took a physical chunk out of them too.
Brought on the likes of Vintinha and Ruiz but didn't help.
Mbappe got the Lille goal to ad a nice little caveat.
Suggests two things
1) yes they have the luxury to rotate in Ligue1 but at this stage of the campaign it doesn't help. And side note, Lille played Europa League Thursday.
2) Our game also took a physical chunk out of them too.
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