Hans-Dieter Flick
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Fati_Future_BallonDor
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Speaking as part of his role as a pundit for CBS Sports in the aftermath of last night’s matchup in Catalunya, ex-Blaugrana striker Henry explained:
“You can’t play in the Champions League with that high line, I’m sorry. When you play against big teams, you’re going to be exposed. Any single run can end in a goal . And that’s exactly what happened against PSG. We always mention it, but they didn’t want to change it.
“Sometimes coaches can be stubborn with their strategy, but in important matches it can be costly.”
“You can’t play in the Champions League with that high line, I’m sorry. When you play against big teams, you’re going to be exposed. Any single run can end in a goal . And that’s exactly what happened against PSG. We always mention it, but they didn’t want to change it.
“Sometimes coaches can be stubborn with their strategy, but in important matches it can be costly.”
FinBarcelonafan
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High line itself isn't an issue, if you can press hard. When you stop pressing and you have a high line, that's when you are really ******.
TacticsTim
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I will die on the hill that the best thing for the team would be to play raphinha at 10 with Marcus on the left. Raphinha plays centrally anyway and his work rate at 10 would be massive. He is the most important player for this team.
serghei
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And this. Why on earth would you ask Balde to press the other team's fullback in min 90? It's demented. That's an 70m run forward than 70m run back. It is unrealistic what Flick wants.
The 2nd goal is also a result of triggering stupid pressing moves without being anywhere near ready to make it efficient. Hakimi and Vitinha laughed at us in the 2nd half with this approach, with how much space we handed them on a plate.
By the time Balde is back, he is so confused as what position to take in the backline, that him and Cubarsi cancel each other out and Hakimi is left in acres of space.
Massive fail by Flick. Zabarny and the keeper should not have been pressed like that, not that deep, because all structure goes out the window if you do that. Ferran should be the one to position himself as to cut the straight pass to Hakimi. Instead of wasting time and losing position to press Chevalier, Lewandowski should be tasked with trying to cut down the pass to Vitinha. By positioning, not by running like headless chicken.
We just commited harakiri in this match. Made it so easy for PSG.
The 2nd goal is also a result of triggering stupid pressing moves without being anywhere near ready to make it efficient. Hakimi and Vitinha laughed at us in the 2nd half with this approach, with how much space we handed them on a plate.
By the time Balde is back, he is so confused as what position to take in the backline, that him and Cubarsi cancel each other out and Hakimi is left in acres of space.
Massive fail by Flick. Zabarny and the keeper should not have been pressed like that, not that deep, because all structure goes out the window if you do that. Ferran should be the one to position himself as to cut the straight pass to Hakimi. Instead of wasting time and losing position to press Chevalier, Lewandowski should be tasked with trying to cut down the pass to Vitinha. By positioning, not by running like headless chicken.
We just commited harakiri in this match. Made it so easy for PSG.
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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This was embarassing tbh.
What the fuck are Balde and Cubarsi doing? They are looking like they want to get romantic with each other. Balde played in a defensively retarded way since he went in.
Balde forgot his position
serghei
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He forgot his position because both him and Cubarsi were going RAMBO mode pressing for no good reason. I don't understand what is it you are hoping to achieve when you press top class players AFTER they alread are in control of the ball and are facing the game? Most of the time, you get outclassed and baited into vacating key positions that subsequently get exposed. Which is how they punished us. Waslike taking candy from a kid.
After we decided to have Balde press Hakimi 70m from what his position normally is, we decided Cubarsi can also leave his position wildly to press. 2 of the players in the backline are 70m off position to press high quality players on the ball, in non-threatening positions, in min 90 in a match we were lucky to be 1-1 in.
Know your opponent ffs...
Balde and Cubarsi both vacated their positions in absurd ways... by the time they got back, they were scrambling, and both had the idea the center should be secured first, despite the galaxian hole in our left side.
In this time, Hakimi was just laughing his ass off most likely.
When your pressing is chaotic and lacks structure or logic, this is what happens. Your structure goes to shite and you look clownish.
After we decided to have Balde press Hakimi 70m from what his position normally is, we decided Cubarsi can also leave his position wildly to press. 2 of the players in the backline are 70m off position to press high quality players on the ball, in non-threatening positions, in min 90 in a match we were lucky to be 1-1 in.
Know your opponent ffs...
Balde and Cubarsi both vacated their positions in absurd ways... by the time they got back, they were scrambling, and both had the idea the center should be secured first, despite the galaxian hole in our left side.
In this time, Hakimi was just laughing his ass off most likely.
When your pressing is chaotic and lacks structure or logic, this is what happens. Your structure goes to shite and you look clownish.
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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The whole second half was crap. Probably the worst second half ive seen under Hansi. Don't know what he told the players in ht but it didnt work.
The worst sub was probaby taking Rashy out, he was one of the best players. Olmo needs to stay on bench for the next big match, he hasnt found his form yet.
It is what it is. Im sure Hansi will learn from these mistakes.
The worst sub was probaby taking Rashy out, he was one of the best players. Olmo needs to stay on bench for the next big match, he hasnt found his form yet.
It is what it is. Im sure Hansi will learn from these mistakes.
serghei
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I'm not sure he will learn. To learn you need to respect the opponent far more, and even question the possibility that he is better than you, or more clever than you. This is what triggers the learning phase and gives it a great possibility of progression.
To learn he will need to adapt his style. He will never be able to get away with having this wild pressing vs teams of the caliber of PSG. Either it goes and gets transformed into something different, still pressing, but more selective and clever, or we lose.
If he studied the opponent better, he'd know Hakimi is not pressable in the way he tried. He can be contained strategically, but not athletically dominated by somebody like Balde coming after an injury lol. Not from that far back at least. You want to press him, you need to be super close to him. Or else don't bother and keep position.
To learn he will need to adapt his style. He will never be able to get away with having this wild pressing vs teams of the caliber of PSG. Either it goes and gets transformed into something different, still pressing, but more selective and clever, or we lose.
If he studied the opponent better, he'd know Hakimi is not pressable in the way he tried. He can be contained strategically, but not athletically dominated by somebody like Balde coming after an injury lol. Not from that far back at least. You want to press him, you need to be super close to him. Or else don't bother and keep position.
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Fati_Future_BallonDor
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stopped reading after this, Kounde couldnt even win the 1vs1 battles, best was ERIC and after Martin was out left side was completely free
Yeah serghei. He can learn Olmo and Yamal to be pressing beasts and Martin and Kounde to have technique of Dani Alves and Alba. Maybe learn to keep Inigo too.
Eric said it, we tried to adapt in 2nd half. Olmo had a match winner but in the end we lost in last minutes. PSG were pressing beasts and could replace their missing players better while we missed our best pressing beasts (Gavi, Fermin, Raphinha) and have weak bench.
Eric said it, we tried to adapt in 2nd half. Olmo had a match winner but in the end we lost in last minutes. PSG were pressing beasts and could replace their missing players better while we missed our best pressing beasts (Gavi, Fermin, Raphinha) and have weak bench.
serghei
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Fine with Eric over Kounde, but you're just wrong. Barcola didn't even try 1 vs 1 attempts until he switched the side and faced Martin instead of Kounde. With Kounde in 1vs 1 he recycled possession constantly in the 1st half. Not saying Kounde had a strong game, but PSG clearly saw Martin (especially him) and Cubarsi as our weak players.
Kounde had one situation where he tripped himself, fell over, and lost the opponent, but even then he recovered and helped Garcia I think contain him.
When faced with Martin, Barcola was clearly instructed to force 1 vs 1. When faced with Kounde, played it differently. You can see this clearly by watching Barcola in the game, since he was the PSG player with most 1 vs 1 ability in the absence of Dembele and partly Doue.
TacticsTim
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Kounde was completely embarrassing and this comment is too
serghei
Senior Member
When. Post minute where he lost 1 vs 1 with PSG wingers in his zone. Except that one moment talked about already. First download the game as I did, then we can discuss.
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