Hans-Dieter Flick

Hansi Flick - how do we rate him?


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KingLeo10

Senior Member
Dortmund beat them in both legs next round. Arsenal Bayern, and Atletico all beat them in CL last season too and Chelsea smashed them in CWC.

Xavi's been exposed so much his backers have to resort to trolling/lying to prop him up now.
Knew this mongrel would seethe and cry at the slightest compliment of a Barca legend :lol:

The 3-2 was at Parc de Princes in a KO round. Only the Dortmund win is remotely comparable.

Lol at bringing up CWC.
 

Fati_Future_BallonDor

Well-known member
Flick is a mediocre coach. Again and again team rushes forward in the dying minutes without brains and leaves acres of space behind them. Fullbacks always too close to the centerbacks leaving the flanks wide open. Same yesterday look at Balde. Jumps around somwhere im midfield. Idiotic and tactical suicide. Flick not able to sort this out. Always the same setup and he doesnt see it. Brainless Coach, overrated, tactically amateurish coaching. Never learns, does nothing against it ...

Deserves a ban for this comment (n)
 

serghei

Senior Member
Well, I just watched the match again.

Several things caused us this loss and this poor performance, other than PSG's superior individual quality on some key positions.

We stubbornly pressed players that should have not been pressed. This rendered our pressing to be suicidal and this also caused our players to be dead tired late in the game. We finished the last 15 mins in particular on our knees. If PSG had their main players available, they could have scored 3-4 goals in the last stretch of the game.

This is on Flick, simply put he got outclassed by Luis Enrique. Why? Why would you press everything that moves? Just keep position and press strategically, on key progression routes, which are well known and studied by now for PSG. We pressed like idiots. Completely broken down the entire structure. Some low-threat players got pressed, while some other marquee players and playmakers for PSG were left to do as they pleased.

Once the initial press was beaten relatively easy, PSG had quick access to open players.

Rashford had an extremely lazy performance in defense. Ran sporadically, and chaotically, showing a poor tactical understanding of the game and a mentality problem. Just not a player cut out for a big game except if he somehow scores a great goal.

Pedri very poor match. Poorer than it seemed last night. De Jong not great either. Both also suffered because Olmo played as if he was not part of the midfield three. Maybe by design, considering he is a no10 sort of, or CAM, and not played as an 8. Either way, midfield was outnumbered easily.

We somehow managed to combine idiotic pressing with defending deep in 2nd half. Caught between two equally bad ends.

Expected to find more laziness for Lamine, but not that much. In fact, his selfishness in offense at times was his biggest issue. Played as if he had a chip on his shoulders, reminded me of a Vinicius performance from last season. No surprise both are clownish characters.

Expected Mendes to stand out more than Hakimi, but Hakimi had an absolute partidazo. Vitinha as well in the 2nd half. Mendes maybe steals the show more while seeing the game live, but Hakimi is the superior player once you pay close attention.

Zabarny was damn hard to press. If we figured he was a liability on the ball, we were dead wrong.

Ferran Torres had a poor match.

The best in defense was Kounde, followed by Eric Garcia. In individual duels, Cubarsi and especially Martin were poor. Martin lost many individual duels indeed. At least 5-6. 3-4 times to Barcola alone, 2-3 times when Hakimi's fitness and stamina ran us ragged in the 2nd half. He is responsible to 70-80% of failed 1 vs 1 duels. By comparison, Kounde won more 1 vs 1 duels than he lost.

In fact, in the first half, the only serious situation Barcola had was when he switched sides to have a taste of Martin (shot over the post after he punishes Martin individually twice in the same play). Barcola probably switched sides as he wasn't getting involved much vs Kounde on our right.

Over watching the game again, the biggest cause for the loss was a completely botched pressing approach, that barely troubled PSG. We were incredibly over ambitious on the night to downright stupid, without either the required quality on the ball, the required athleticism, and the brains to know how to adapt to a better opponent.

At times, as dumb and suicidal as our press was 80% of the time, occasionally we did catch PSG, this is how we created some of our few chances. But it was far too rare, and in those instances where we did make it happen, Ferran and Lamine were considerably worse than Rashford.

Also, it was incredibly dumb to ask from our fullbacks to press the other teams' fullbacks. We did this repeatedly. What the hell were we thinking, those are 80m runs. You humanly can't do that. You don't see Hakimi do that lol. PSG are far more strategic and clever than us.

Instead of doing this, be smart. Why use the forwards to fucking press the keepers or the CBs? Fucking cut the passes to likes of Vitinha, Hakimi, and Mendes, the players who make their entire game. Let the keepers stay on the ball, let Zabarny stay on the ball, let Pacho stay on the ball. And aproach them from an angle while trying to have likes of Mendes, Vitinha, and Hakimi in your cover shadow. That's smart pressing.

Instead, we idiotically pressed everything that moves as if Zabarny and Hakimi pose the same value of threat. Sorry, but it was a match very poorly prepared. We did try more than it seemed on live watch, but the plan was doomed from the get go.
 
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Fati_Future_BallonDor

Well-known member
Speaking as part of his role as a pundit for CBS Sports in the aftermath of last night’s matchup in Catalunya, ex-Blaugrana striker Henry explained:

“You can’t play in the Champions League with that high line, I’m sorry. When you play against big teams, you’re going to be exposed. Any single run can end in a goal . And that’s exactly what happened against PSG. We always mention it, but they didn’t want to change it.

“Sometimes coaches can be stubborn with their strategy, but in important matches it can be costly.”
 

serghei

Senior Member
This was embarassing tbh.

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What the fuck are Balde and Cubarsi doing? They are looking like they want to get romantic with each other. Balde played in a defensively retarded way since he went in.
 

TacticsTim

Active member
I will die on the hill that the best thing for the team would be to play raphinha at 10 with Marcus on the left. Raphinha plays centrally anyway and his work rate at 10 would be massive. He is the most important player for this team.
 

serghei

Senior Member
And this. Why on earth would you ask Balde to press the other team's fullback in min 90? It's demented. That's an 70m run forward than 70m run back. It is unrealistic what Flick wants.

The 2nd goal is also a result of triggering stupid pressing moves without being anywhere near ready to make it efficient. Hakimi and Vitinha laughed at us in the 2nd half with this approach, with how much space we handed them on a plate.

By the time Balde is back, he is so confused as what position to take in the backline, that him and Cubarsi cancel each other out and Hakimi is left in acres of space.

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Massive fail by Flick. Zabarny and the keeper should not have been pressed like that, not that deep, because all structure goes out the window if you do that. Ferran should be the one to position himself as to cut the straight pass to Hakimi. Instead of wasting time and losing position to press Chevalier, Lewandowski should be tasked with trying to cut down the pass to Vitinha. By positioning, not by running like headless chicken.

We just commited harakiri in this match. Made it so easy for PSG.
 

serghei

Senior Member
He forgot his position because both him and Cubarsi were going RAMBO mode pressing for no good reason. I don't understand what is it you are hoping to achieve when you press top class players AFTER they alread are in control of the ball and are facing the game? Most of the time, you get outclassed and baited into vacating key positions that subsequently get exposed. Which is how they punished us. Waslike taking candy from a kid.

After we decided to have Balde press Hakimi 70m from what his position normally is, we decided Cubarsi can also leave his position wildly to press. 2 of the players in the backline are 70m off position to press high quality players on the ball, in non-threatening positions, in min 90 in a match we were lucky to be 1-1 in.

Know your opponent ffs...

Balde and Cubarsi both vacated their positions in absurd ways... by the time they got back, they were scrambling, and both had the idea the center should be secured first, despite the galaxian hole in our left side. :lol: In this time, Hakimi was just laughing his ass off most likely.

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When your pressing is chaotic and lacks structure or logic, this is what happens. Your structure goes to shite and you look clownish.
 

Fati_Future_BallonDor

Well-known member
The whole second half was crap. Probably the worst second half ive seen under Hansi. Don't know what he told the players in ht but it didnt work.

The worst sub was probaby taking Rashy out, he was one of the best players. Olmo needs to stay on bench for the next big match, he hasnt found his form yet.

It is what it is. Im sure Hansi will learn from these mistakes.
 

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