Hans-Dieter Flick

Hansi Flick - how do we rate him?


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JamDav1982

Senior Member
Fake news.. folk were happy with Laporta sacked Xavi and gave him credit for doing it.

Xavi was a decent choice at time to give club back some personality but had run his course earlier than was gotten rid of.

Folk make out Xavi had it harder than he did.

Had a lot of emerging talent and spent the most of any coach in Spain in his time.

Midfield is the perfect example of it.. inherits Busquets, FDJ, Pedri, Gavi, Nico etc and then Fermin, Casado and Bernal coming through.

While he signs.. Kessie, Gundogan, Romeu and wanted that Argentine lad from Betis who cant get a game in EPL.

Same folk who claim Xavi had squad would struggle to compete with say 'dont fuck it up' about Flick while saying he needs to look how Alonso is doing things at Real etc.

Xavi did well. The job got too much for him and he was overly negative both in tactics and excuses more and more as many pointed out long before Laporta acted on it.
 
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Barcaman

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To be fair Barto left a Barca with..

Cubarsi, Araujo, Balde, Frenkie, Pedri, Gavi, Bernal, Casado, Fermin, Yamal etc

Can add many more..MATS, Pena, Mingueza, Todibo, Alba, Roberto, Nico, Busquets, Messi, Dembele, Trincao and more again.

Barcas best two players were players there before Laporta arrived.

The fact Barca have managed to have this level of squad is primarily due to players there before arrived and then players sold on.

The La Masia Laporta left was out dated and it took until 2014/15 for it to be sorted and producing players from young age again.

Laporta has also managed to lose two players in last 5 years that went on to win the balondor after they left.

Laporta has two players that could win balondor in future.. neither of whom he brought to club.

Problem is that many people don't like to be reminded of these things. Easier to look at world black and white. Bartomeu the boogeyman and Laporta the saint.

Think club of Barca stature, that very top, deserves very top management too. Capable, conscientious, hard-working directors. Laporta has the vision and instinct (hires good coaches) but otherwise is just winging everything.

Barca deserves and needs best. Particularly in these ultra competitive times.
 

Porque

Senior Member
Can't compare football to other corporate jobs.

If having a 20 year football career day in day out under world class managers, experiencing winning everything on the pitch is rated the same experience as a graduate then you missed the mark.

And even then Xavi had 3 years as experience as manager. It's just that he chose to have those three years at All Sad.

He arrived at Barca with more managerial experience than Pep and Lucho did basically.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
😂😂😂

Talk about white wash, Barto and Rosell fan boys have no shame, but thankfully everyone is wise to there games

Anyways not the place for this, but hilarious
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Folk moan
Can't compare football to other corporate jobs.

If having a 20 year football career day in day out under world class managers, experiencing winning everything on the pitch is rated the same experience as a graduate then you missed the mark.

I dont think anyone is making that claim.. who has said Barca need 'graduates'?
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
😂😂😂

Talk about white wash, Barto and Rosell fan boys have no shame, but thankfully everyone is wise to there games

Anyways not the place for this, but hilarious

Cant reply with anything of relevance as all facts layed out.

There are no Barto 'fan boys' and not the point.

What the point is what Laporta was left to deal with but likes of you only want to make out he was left with nothing and built club from rubble.

The fact is Barca had a great group of players there and emerging.

Pedri and Yamal being prime examples.

Club has also made hundreds of millions from BLM and Barca Studios.. which Laporta praised previous board on.

Folk are giving a fair reflection of what was left with.. the good and bad likes of you cant handle that.
 

Porque

Senior Member
Folk moan


I dont think anyone is making that claim.. who has said Barca need 'graduates'?

Read this by Tora, who is from elsewhere around here, seemingly a very smart guy. But misses the mark here imo.

So strange to read digs towards Xavi time and time again. One would never even compare these two in any other job.

Xavi is like a graduate who just came out of university, through nepotism landed the CEO job of a giant but crumbling company who just lost its strongest ever asset (Messi) and somehow managed to get the company back up to winning ways after some bad years but ultimately couldn't sustain or keep improving quick enough as he lacked the experience.

Flick is just a proven CEO with 30 years of experience who first won the biggest price in the business as assistant CEO in 2014 and then won everything possible as the main CEO in 2020.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Read this by Tora, who is from elsewhere around here, seemingly a very smart guy. But misses the mark here imo.

So strange to read digs towards Xavi time and time again. One would never even compare these two in any other job.

Xavi is like a graduate who just came out of university, through nepotism landed the CEO job of a giant but crumbling company who just lost its strongest ever asset (Messi) and somehow managed to get the company back up to winning ways after some bad years but ultimately couldn't sustain or keep improving quick enough as he lacked the experience.

Flick is just a proven CEO with 30 years of experience who first won the biggest price in the business as assistant CEO in 2014 and then won everything possible as the main CEO in 2020.

He is praising Xavi there and Xavi does have experience in football so doesnt fit what a 'graduate' is anyway.
 

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