Hans-Dieter Flick

[Porque]

In the end of the day the season will be a massive success if we win the League.

If we don't, then we haven't achieved anything more than Pep in Man City worst ever season under him.

I mean it's all relative, to the perception we built up over the year. And in sporting play we have had massive improvement, but it will mean zilch if we now blow the league with no mental fortitude.

 

[mc_lovin]

I don't even want to imagine blowing the League. I love what Flick has done, but that would cast a massive shadow on his stint.

 

[Porque]

What did I say regarding 352 vs 4231 before a ball was kicked and repeated in the olmo trend?.

Inter's formation is the perfect antidote for the 4231.

He wasn't going to change is formation for a SF like pep would, he's not that type of manager, but from a structure and tactical prospective, inter started the game with an edge which is why they led for the majority of the game.

You realize Inter went into half time leading 2-0. So Flick come out half time and played a front two of Ferran-Raphi, switched to a formation matching Inter and dominated the second period.

Until, well, you know what happened.

 

[KingLeo10]

I don't even want to imagine blowing the League. I love what Flick has done, but that would cast a massive shadow on his stint.

The only thing that gives me serious concern is how badly the defense has fallen apart.

Because we don't do any actual defense/defensive coaching it seems, other than high line optimization. The defense fell apart as soon as we got tired and run-down last month, because our defense is actually collective pressing more than any individual action. Since the Celta game

3 conceded Celta
3 conceded Dortmund
2 conceded RM
3 conceded Inter
4 conceded Inter

Mbappe and Vini are gonna feast on Sunday. We just need to outlast them and outscore them. And then the league is done.

 

[Birdy]

No. He built the expectations to what they became. Unfortunately, this always happens when you raise the bar, people expect more from Flick now.

If we are to consider him a great manager... whole different conversation than at the beginning of the season.

Comparison is not Xavi lol. He's already better than Xavi by a distance. But likes of Pep, Klopp, etc. Not sure those type of elite managers lose a game of this importance like Flick did.

I remember very well you being among the ones whining for klopp not parking the bus and losing twice to Madrid in CL finals because he went out to attack

Same for Pep, when he lost in 2021

 

[Birdy]

The only thing that gives me serious concern is how badly the defense has fallen apart.

Because we don't do any actual defense/defensive coaching it seems, other than high line optimization. The defense fell apart as soon as we got tired and run-down last month, because our defense is actually collective pressing more than any individual action. Since the Celta game

3 conceded Celta
3 conceded Dortmund
2 conceded RM
3 conceded Inter
4 conceded Inter

Mbappe and Vini are gonna feast on Sunday. We just need to outlast them and outscore them. And then the league is done.

I have seen this argument like 100 times since the start of the season

That's how we play under Flick.

Extremely high-line, offside trap.
We win by it, we lose by it.

Deal with it

 

[mc_lovin]

I wonder what we would look like without Yamal in goat mode

 

[KingLeo10]

I have seen this argument like 100 times since the start of the season

That's how we play under Flick.

Extremely high-line, offside trap.
We win by it, we lose by it.

Deal with it

This guy doesn't understand the substance of my post isn't the high line. But rather that the high line (with acres of space behind) is better suited when you have fresh legs hounding and pressing.

 

[serghei]

The perfect CB for Flick's high line system @serghei @jamrock

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1919006719578939759

No shit...

Might even throw Stegen in to give a bone to the other teams if we had prime Van Dijk.

 

[jamrock]

You realize Inter went into half time leading 2-0. So Flick come out half time and played a front two of Ferran-Raphi, switched to a formation matching Inter and dominated the second period.

Until, well, you know what happened.

Now if only he had listen and done that from the jump, instead of after being down 2-0.

GIving away 3/4 of the game to a tactical inferior system, which is why we led for a grand total of 6 minutes.

 

[jamrock]

The only thing that gives me serious concern is how badly the defense has fallen apart.

Because we don't do any actual defense/defensive coaching it seems, other than high line optimization. The defense fell apart as soon as we got tired and run-down last month, because our defense is actually collective pressing more than any individual action. Since the Celta game

3 conceded Celta
3 conceded Dortmund
2 conceded RM
3 conceded Inter
4 conceded Inter

Mbappe and Vini are gonna feast on Sunday. We just need to outlast them and outscore them. And then the league is done.

That part is clear as day, which makes me feel sad for Cubarsi, he will development will be slowed due to this, as I said in his trend.

 

[jamrock]

Also conceding 15 goals on 5 games is crazy work.

Your attackers need to score at least 4 every game to win, that's not sustainable.

 

[Porque]

Now if only he had listen and done that from the jump, instead of after being down 2-0.

GIving away 3/4 of the game to a tactical inferior system, which is why we led for a grand total of 6 minutes.

I asked you about the game last season though and you mentioned that Joe fucked up.

But 3 of the 4 goals yesterday were also fuckups while in possession (Olmo and Gerard x2).

Then the 4th was Araujo

SAme, same, but different.

I prefer to be glass half full and see the time we were in ascendency, while facing a top side thats route to victory was on exploiting our errors to create chances.

And I think only one of them, the winner, can from a genuine chance created, and even then much was on Araujo turning like an oil tanker.

 

[jamrock]

I asked you about the game last season though and you mentioned that Joe fucked up.

But 3 of the 4 goals yesterday were also fuckups while in possession (Olmo and Gerard x2).

Then the 4th was Araujo

SAme, same, but different.

I prefer to be glass half full and see the time we were in ascendency, while facing a top side thats route to victory was on exploiting our errors to create chances.

And I think only one of them, the winner, can from a genuine chance created, and even then much was on Araujo turning like an oil tanker.

We were speaking about 1 goal, while being up with 5 minutes to go and we both know how the TEAM played that moment, no need to repeat.

Not talking about half full or half empty.

It's just a simply thing where everyone should or could see that 352 will have a natural advantage over 4231 and some coaches, wouldn't have waited until being down 2 goals to see that and make a change.

And after making finally making that change, and getting into a winning position.........

 

[Birdy]

This guy doesn't understand the substance of my post isn't the high line. But rather that the high line (with acres of space behind) is better suited when you have fresh legs hounding and pressing.

Everyone knows we don't have quality squad depth, but let's be honest:
There have never been fresh legs in May, even for the most stacked teams.

When title-deciding games are on the line, every manager plays his best 11, no matter the tired legs.

Other factors, such as injuries to crucial pieces, can play a role