FC Barcelona Finances

serghei

serghei

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You can see why Madrid and Barca want the Superleague. They are scared their funding model is not able to compete anymore with sugardaddy clubs from EPL and Qatar's team.

Bayern should be worried as hell. Only 3 elite clubs use this fan owned model and all 3 will have issues keeping up with like of PSG long term. Especially a wised up PSG with Enrique at the helm and a good SD.
 
serghei

serghei

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Club should make it clear how much of that 476m is deferred payments from those crazy amigos contracts. It's still far too high imo. Those players didn't give away one cent from their contracts is my bet. All of those contracts were simply reschedulled during 2020-2022 financial shitstorm and still paid today imo.
 
khaled_a_d

khaled_a_d

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serghei said:
Club should make it clear how much of that 476m is still deferred payments from amigos. It's still far too high imo.
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I think it is zero tbh, this is the squad cost. I doubt UEFA is counting deferred wages of retired players. But I can't be sure tbh
 
serghei

serghei

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khaled_a_d said:
I think it is zero tbh, this is the squad cost. I doubt UEFA is counting deferred wages of retired players. But I can't be sure tbh
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Does the math make sense though? The numbers don't add up to me. Logical would be for deferred payments to be added. They are after all wage expenses, doesn't matter if the players are not here anymore. As long as those are wages to be paid, they are in our books.

We will see if the sum drops in 1-2 seasons. Or doesn't go higher despite us adding new players.
 
khaled_a_d

khaled_a_d

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serghei said:
Does the math make sense though? The numbers don't add up to me. Logical would be for deferred payments to be added. They are after all wage expenses, doesn't matter if the players are not here anymore. As long as those are wages to be paid, they are in our books.

We will see if the sum drops in 1-2 seasons. Or doesn't go higher despite us adding new players.
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Yes
Our salary cap went from 200M something into 400M+ between 2023/24 to 24/25 without some strategic increase in income, change of stadium etc. Suggesting that deferred wage was more of "other costs" rather than part of the calculated salary cap.
And it will be higher next year with all the renewals.
I actually agree with Birdy point, he just used a misinformed numbers. Barca aren't poor by any mean.
We are just generous club who pays massive wages to our own, especially those from La Masia whom we treat as untouchable. Fati renewal was prime example of that.
This is why 1:1 is for me a useless term, it will always depend on how much we pay, Laporta always pushes the limit for sport success.

OTOH, having 4th highest wage bill for a top 3 teams in Europe isn't bad either. So, I can't say we are wasting.
 
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ajnotkeith

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658m wage bill whilst being a commercial non entity compared to Barca... yet we have to play by the "1:1 rule" whilst these guys have free rein to spend whatever they want in the rules of their domestic league.

Very fair competition!
 
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ajnotkeith

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serghei said:
Does the math make sense though? The numbers don't add up to me. Logical would be for deferred payments to be added. They are after all wage expenses, doesn't matter if the players are not here anymore. As long as those are wages to be paid, they are in our books.

We will see if the sum drops in 1-2 seasons. Or doesn't go higher despite us adding new players.
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They do count as wages because the club agreed those payments contractually in accordance with FFP.

Maybe the creator of the graph decided to adjust to account for it but if the numbers are pulled directly this will be including deferred wages.
 
serghei

serghei

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This will be fixed when Camp Nou is on. I hear Madrid made 1bn in revenue, with us 750m. With us going deep in CL again consistently, Camp Nou being finished, is there not feasible we go back to matching Madrid in revenue? 250m more in revenue per year makes all the difference in the world. That's money that can be used to improve the squad in 2-3 seasons.
 
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ajnotkeith

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serghei said:
This will be fixed when Camp Nou is on. I hear Madrid made 1bn in revenue, with us 750m. With us going deep in CL again consistently, Camp Nou being finished, is there not feasible we go back to matching Madrid in revenue? 250m more in revenue per year makes all the difference in the world. That's money that can be used to improve the squad in 2-3 seasons.
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That is a realistic prediction. The stadium rebuilding and the CL failures cost us a lot of money. Our revenue will also increase from higher ticket sales as we are consistently selling big numbers under Flick, due to the attacking football.

Players like Yamal will also become very financially beneficial in marketing terms.
 
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