Neymessi
Active member
Lol
It's funny how EV apologists keep repeating the same shit as counter-arguments. "You are just spoilt" "He gets results" blah blah
It may sound very tough to digest by you and most forum members here and I expect a defensive response to this, but getting a potential 198 points in 2 seasons in EPL by winning both is way more impressive than what EV has done here. Not to say that EV has a bad record stats wise, but he has so many misleading wins to his name thanks to Messi and the biggest factor that we had really average rival sides aka RM and Atletico. Let's not pretend they are anywhere near a top team this season or the last. And also you will say that RM won the CL last season but once again let's not pretend they were not horseshit last season in the league.
Your posting in Caps also makes you look pretty juvenile.
Also, the fact that you compare him to pep shows how clueless you are. And on the contrary by posting the "results" comparison of both managers you just prove my point rather than countering it ie this is not how you judge managers as results can be misleading.
Also, pep has regressed them in CL whereas EV has elevated us? How exactly? Why am I even asking, its because we are in the semis and they aren't? Once again, results. First of all, let me inform you this is his 2nd season in CL and his first was thoroughly disastrous there, and he made us look like fucking idiots, so pep wins there comfortably. They went out to Liverpool and we went out to Roma. Now this season they are eliminated, but if you look at the 2nd leg vs. spurs you could see they were far from a joke, and their team is really really good. They got eliminated, but they are definitely a top top team still. Now let's talk about us. Apart from the Spurs game I haven't seen anything uplifting and reassuring this season in the CL. We defeated Lyon and Manu who have lost 7 in their last 9 games and even against Manu we were from great and once again the 4-0 is so misleading. Just like last season against Chelsea, it was a pretty mediocre team performance combined with luck (more last year than this), so let's not pretend that EV has fucking elevated us to glory even if you are looking at it results-wise. If we go through against Liverpool somehow with a mediocre performance then you can say he elevated us in CL but now? No thanks.
You are naive if you think these are the only two possibilities that exist.
Maybe you did not read the small lesson of probability that I gave. You can have the best squad and still not win it, or reach high stages in CL. E.g. us in 10 and 12 when we got eliminated at semis. Now you will say at least we reached the semis but what if we drew Chelsea and Inter that season in quarters? Also, RM has won 3 Cls back to back and they never really were anywhere THAT good. So it’s all about probability, you may be great but still lose and you may not be all that and still win.
So here is a 3rd possibility - You can have the best or 2nd best squad alongside a really good manager and still not win the CL.
Thoroughly misleading post. RM and Atletico aren't anywhere near a top team this season or the last. The competition under Mou was simply better even without atletico.
No one said that. Cliched argument.
And that is why no one considers Zidane a better manager than pep, because they look past stats.
that's why people take everything for granted with this barcelona team. i remember the gaspart days when we were shite
Another cliched argument. We were shite in the Gaspart days because our team wasn't all that then. Now we have a powerhouse of a team and we expect higher.
