Temptation
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Rooney is so thick that he literally just proved Gerrard's point ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
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soul24rage
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2004 was their biggest chance and they blew it.
Jenks
Senior Member
He's probably right about the players being friends stuff and that the team was set up wrong, but I think he's looking at the squad with too much of a modern lens to say that there talent wasn't there in certain positions to win anything. It wasn't really an era where you couldn't do anything without wide forwards and I would argue that isn't neccessarily even true today.
The biggest problem was trying to fit Owen, Rooney, Gerrard and Lampard into the same team. If Owen starts then Rooney plays wide left or sits on the bench. If Gerrard starts then Lampard doesn't. It should have been as simple as that.
That team would not have been the best in the world on paper but it would have been a realistic contender if nothing else.
The biggest problem was trying to fit Owen, Rooney, Gerrard and Lampard into the same team. If Owen starts then Rooney plays wide left or sits on the bench. If Gerrard starts then Lampard doesn't. It should have been as simple as that.
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That team would not have been the best in the world on paper but it would have been a realistic contender if nothing else.
Temptation
Well-known member
It's pretty simple.
Brazil NT was clearly better in 2002 and Italy NT was clearly better in 2006. Even on paper.
By 2010, the "golden generation" was washed and the team was mediocre.
khaled_a_d
Senior Member
Beckham was great during that time, Beckham is what? 3 years older than Lampard? He wasn't a finished player.
England peaked in 2002, but they faced one of the best teams in the history of the WC, no one knew at the time, though.
2006 team was the one that looked good on paper but bad as a functioning one
England peaked in 2002, but they faced one of the best teams in the history of the WC, no one knew at the time, though.
2006 team was the one that looked good on paper but bad as a functioning one
Weren't England pretty much better than Brazil in that game though, but come up against a couple of wonder goals.
With the long range Dinho strike being a goal that only two goalkeepers in the history of football would concede. A shot David Seaman, and Matias Ter Stegen.
With the long range Dinho strike being a goal that only two goalkeepers in the history of football would concede. A shot David Seaman, and Matias Ter Stegen.
GloryHunter 007
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BOOYAH
people call me Matias also.
England will win something by the time we are gone though.
One thing I've noticed over the last few games is how much quicker England win the ball back all over the pitch. We look a proper team and the likes of Bellingham and Palmer are going to have to work really hard to get back in.
Anderson and Wharton (once finally selected) will give us everything we have been missing in midfield for donkeys years now.
Pickford
James
Guehi
Stones
Spence
Wharton/Rice
Anderson
Bellingham/Palmer
Saka/Madueke
Gordon/Rashford
Kane
Anderson and Wharton (once finally selected) will give us everything we have been missing in midfield for donkeys years now.
Pickford
James
Guehi
Stones
Spence
Wharton/Rice
Anderson
Bellingham/Palmer
Saka/Madueke
Gordon/Rashford
Kane
Fati_Future_BallonDor
Humble guy
Would you say this is the strongest Englabd since 1966?
Maybe not as individuals. But I certainly think it's the best "team" and the strongest squad. And also the best manager by a distance.
GloryHunter 007
Reporting for duty
on every corner in Croatia in 2018 there were English people who would shout how it's coming home before the semifinal game.
on every corner in Croatia in 2018 there were English people who would shout how it's coming home before the semifinal game.
Nothing wrong with being optimistic. Also that song is in relation to football in general, because it originated in the UK, and not the actual trophy itself as many people seem to think.
But I remember that game very well. England should have been out of sight in the first half but didn't get that second goal, and the class of Modric told in the end.
GloryHunter 007
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Trippier's only goal ever for England.
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