Do you wish Barca played in 2025 FIFA Club World Cup?

[Joan]

It's cool you don't fundamentally understand our finances issues and think the extra money will fix it, it's cool.

So how would making that extra money, that wouldn't dramatically change our current financial situation, especially with a return to the camp nou next season, be better than giving the players rest and actually being in a better position to win the titles that matter.

A gif is worth a thousand words

 

[jamrock]

A gif is worth a thousand words

😂 No goal post is being changed.

Just say you can't articulate how this money would help, I know you can't, you know you can't.

Just say, extra money = good, that's basically you're understanding of the situation

Like I said you don't fundamentally understand what are issues are and why this money isn't going to address it.

It's just some nice cash to have, but the extra rest is significantly better

PS flick says thanks Xavi.

Talking about goal post 😂 😂, you just can't articulate the reason ma dude, outside of Xavi bad lol

 

[delancey]

 

[jamrock]

You want to help him out?.

You gave some great insight into the levers and how we shouldn't use them and instead accept finish 4th, you were raging then.

Super "smart" takes aged wonderfully well with time, maybe you can help out @Joan, because he's completely incapable of telling us how making the extra money would be better than rest, outside of Xavi bad.

You clearly have a great understanding of financial issues affecting the club and how to best manage them.

 

[Catta]

From a selfish point, I wish Barca played, no other team plays as exciting as we do, but it is also important that our young team gets enough rest.

If no CWC can help us win the CL next season, then it will be worth it to not participate. But if we miss out on both the big titles and the money from the CWC, then it would have been a big loss to not participate this summer.

 

[jamrock]

Yea some will be hoping we don't win anything next season to, so they can say missed out of the summer money and won nothing the season after.


The logic doesn't really work like that, but I definitely get the low hanging fruit with that.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Clubs did their best to be part of it for a reason.

Especially a club as financially troubled aa ours.

If you vote no here, chances are you’re a Xavi fanboy.

How far do you take it? If that's the case why not add more games to LaLiga and CL?

At some point we have to draw the line it's too much.. also there's too many games. I want to have off-season too from this madness. Not just the players but the fans. Anticipation is good. We need it. Seeing these players in action should be special, not like baseball where they play every freaking day basically. Boring as ****.

Also physical and mental health of the players. They are taking it too far. We will have soon more and more horrible injuries because not enough time to recover or the game becomes blah because no trainings and no time to train outside competitive field.

FIFA and UEFA are money hungry ****** who gives zero shit about players health.

 

[jamrock]

No clubs where trying there best to get into it, multiple big clubs aren't in it and don't give a fuck.

Because they see it as a waste of time and the summer rest will be better.

Fans where gassing getting in more than big clubs especially here where a few fans have been doing the math for 24 months now 😂 😂.

They know themselves.

 

[Joan]

Capping Barca's ambitions to two players and 80m budget is a fun way to move the goalposts, especially when we have to address a few major issues.

Barca's revenue's on the rise and will be significantly impacted by the dynamics of the Camp Nou return, as will the expenses since the payments on interest are delayed. Focusing solely on expenses doesn't do much as most are fixed cost and locked in.

The problem hasn't been with Tebas saying no but getting income vetted and recognised.

What you mean by coming up with 50-100 m is levers, great if you must, better not if you have other choices. Might have to pull some again next summer if we have ambitions bigger than two players and 80m in fees.

On top of it, 35 men squad to participate with over a month before the first league game, we'll see just how big of an impact that is.

There is a reason clubs are happy to be in it.

 

[Joan]

How far do you take it? If that's the case why not add more games to LaLiga and CL?

At some point we have to draw the line it's too much.. also there's too many games. I want to have off-season too from this madness. Not just the players but the fans. Anticipation is good. We need it. Seeing these players in action should be special, not like baseball where they play every freaking day basically. Boring as ****.

Also physical and mental health of the players. They are taking it too far. We will have soon more and more horrible injuries because not enough time to recover or the game becomes blah because no trainings and no time to train outside competitive field.

FIFA and UEFA are money hungry ****** who gives zero shit about players health.

Barca being in or out will do nothing about the general trend, other European giants are in it, happy to take advantage and move on with their seasons.

I don't hate we're out, should give us a boost in the league against a significantly improved Real but a significant financial boost next summer could buy us a year in terms of ambitions with the actual dynamics of Camp Nou return still unknown.

It is what it is.

That said, couldn't care less about this competition and don't plan to watch the matches nor the highlights.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Barca being in or out will do nothing about the general trend, other European giants are in it, happy to take advantage and move on with their seasons.

I don't hate we're out, should give us a boost in the league against a significantly improved Real but a significant financial boost next summer could buy us a year in terms of ambitions with the actual dynamics of Camp Nou return still unknown.

It is what it is.

That said, couldn't care less about this competition and don't plan to watch the matches nor the highlights.

I agree. We need the money. In this scenario right now; short-term over long-term? Yes because we are broke. but I would hate it and do it only for the money.

But personally against this and all these meme tournaments they are coming up with, like the nation's league.

 

[jamrock]

Capping Barca's ambitions to two players and 80m budget is a fun way to move the goalposts, especially when we have to address a few major issues.

Barca's revenue's on the rise and will be significantly impacted by the dynamics of the Camp Nou return, as will the expenses since the payments on interest are delayed. Focusing solely on expenses doesn't do much as most are fixed cost and locked in.

The problem hasn't been with Tebas saying no but getting income vetted and recognised.

What you mean by coming up with 50-100 m is levers, great if you must, better not if you have other choices. Might have to pull some again next summer if we have ambitions bigger than two players and 80m in fees.

On top of it, 35 men squad to participate with over a month before the first league game, we'll see just how big of an impact that is.

There is a reason clubs are happy to be in it.

You have that goal post gif saved in your phone because that's all you post whenever you engage in a debate with someone and don't have any argument, I've seen it from you multiple times, but anyways


We have no major issues to address outside those that the club thinks need to be addressed not what fans on the internet thinks need to be addressed.

Barca weren't in a position to splash 150+ on transfers with or without the CWC, we are club who rarely does that anyways and definitely didn't need to do it this summer


The club has identified two positions that needs to be straightened goalkepper and LW/LF and we have the resources to do that.

Fans can whine all they want about CB and striker, "major issues" the club don't those are positions that's need strengthening, and if they did, it will only be after selling a CB, so we wouldn't need CWC money.

Thanks for confirming your understanding of the issue boils down to money good, Xavi bad.

The rest the players will get, is much more beneficial to our chances of winning next season, than spending extra money to secure a CB.


PS idk which club has major issues that needs to be addressed after winning the domestic treble and 3 minutes away from the CL final, lol.

They have a few issues that needs to be addressed and are doing so without CWC money.

 

[El Flaco]

No clubs where trying there best to get into it, multiple big clubs aren't in it and don't give a fuck.

Because they see it as a waste of time and the summer rest will be better.

Fans where gassing getting in more than big clubs especially here where a few fans have been doing the math for 24 months now 😂 😂.

They know themselves.

FIFA plans to expand the Club World Cup from 32 to 48 teams in 2029 when the next tournament is held, after lobbying from clubs (Barcelona, Arsenal, Man United, Liverpool, AC Milan etc) who failed to qualify for the new $1BN/£740M tournament.

Fifa ready to discuss staging 48-team Club World Cup after lobbying from Europe

Fifa will hold a consultation about expanding the Club World Cup to 48 teams in 2029 if this summer’s edition is successful

www.theguardian.com

 

[jamrock]

It really boils down to what would have been better short to medium term, rest for the players or some extra cash.

Because long term this is a non issue.

While short term we are clearly capable of filling the gaps deco and flick have identified, without the CWC and while getting rest.

Now if we weren't able to sign anyone and that extra Income would have enabled that, the conversation would be different.

 

[jamrock]

FIFA plans to expand the Club World Cup from 32 to 48 teams in 2029 when the next tournament is held, after lobbying from clubs (Barcelona, Arsenal, Man United, Liverpool, AC Milan etc) who failed to qualify for the new $1BN/£740M tournament.

Fifa ready to discuss staging 48-team Club World Cup after lobbying from Europe

Fifa will hold a consultation about expanding the Club World Cup to 48 teams in 2029 if this summer’s edition is successful

www.theguardian.com

FIFA expanded the Official world cup, they are going to expand this anyways


Because they want all the big clubs involved, nothing to do with being lobbied by big clubs.

They simply want it to match the real world cup and it had the added benefit of getting more big name teams involved.