CL: Barca - PSG 1-2

[Temptation]

Folk can agree or disagree on the merits of Lewa/Ferran... but is there a club in the world that has a better two options at CF?

Cant think of any.

Isak Ekitike

 

[FCBarca]

French media amusing, concerned about avoiding a potential beating they are already setting a narrative that they are a wounded champion lacking even a competitive lineup. That it would be a different story were they available but equally the fear is real from punditry - especially on Lamine

They are effusive in their praise of the genius that is Lamine

 

[BusiTheKing]

Letting Frenkie and Pedri dictate tempo has been easier to watch than going ballistic in attack like we did in quite a few games last year.

Matches this season are better managed and less chaotic.

Newcastle being the main example of that. Game was controlled beautifully due to Frenkie and Pedri.

Newcastle, the game where we scored on a cross and a long shot, two high risk/high reward actions? And then also conceded a goal while "controlling" the game.

 

[JamDav1982]

Isak Ekitike

Possibly.

That may be about it.

 

[JamDav1982]

Newcastle, the game where we scored on a cross and a long shot, two high risk/high reward actions? And then also conceded a goal while "controlling" the game.

What do you expect?

Barca to never concede?

There are more chances to get balls into box and long range efforts the more get it into final third.

Barca have not been shying away from 'high risk/high reward' moments either.

FDJ and Pedri constantly pass ball forward and taking it in areas where it is a risk.

 

[BusiTheKing]

What do you expect?

Barca to never concede?

There are more chances to get balls into box and long range efforts the more get it into final third.

Barca have not been shying away from 'high risk/high reward' moments either.

FDJ and Pedri constantly pass ball forward and taking it in areas where it is a risk.

Our friend there mentioned the Newcastle game as an endorsement of a this season's more "controlling" style of football, compared to last season's "ballistic" style of attacking.

I'm saying that it was exactly our "ballistic" strain of attacking that scored us two goals in that game, while our "controlling style" -- typified in combinations around the box -- scored us zero goals. And that it didn't prevent us from conceding either.

 

[Titan98]

Our friend there mentioned the Newcastle game as an endorsement of a this season's more "controlling" style of football, compared to last season's "ballistic" style of attacking.

I'm saying that it was exactly our "ballistic" strain of attacking that scored us two goals in that game, while our "controlling style" -- typified in combinations around the box -- scored us zero goals. And that it didn't prevent us from conceding either.

I saw barca playing a bad first half but the 2nd was perfect control. Just one attack for newcastle and goal. After this goal we managed to get full control and play it home. Midfield improved much this season but i also think this costs as a few goals, the question is can we still play the „ballistik offense game“ if we have to?

 

[JamDav1982]

Newcastle game Pedri and FDJ were world class and controlled the game massively towards the win.

That is not independent of other players having moments or scoring from balls into box.

Awful point as if didnt help score.

Back to making out likes of Pedri isnt as good as folk think again it seems.

 

[jamrock]

We had so much control we required a rashford worldie to win the game.

The game is midfield was good, but not some standard we should use that game to set.

Howe played right into our hands, other managers and certainly Enrique with a fully fit team won't do that, even with him missing the front 3 he likely won't.

 

[Horatio]

We had so much control we required a rashford worldie to win the game.

Is this meant to be sarcastic?

Nothing wrong with winning it via Rashford worldie.

Newcastle at home ain’t scrubs.

 

[BusiTheKing]

Attacking wise, surely no-one would deny that the point of slower, safer build-ups is to open a sustained window of opportunity for combinations around the box. That is the only attacking style that benefits particularly from that style of moderation. If we were scoring most of our goals this way, of course there would be no objections from me.

If we wanted to play for long shots or crosses, there are easier and more conducive ways to score goals through those weapons.

Defensively, the point of slower, safer build-ups is to defend through possession. A valid strategy with its own pros and cons. I would prefer trying to score more goals instead. That's all I'm saying.

 

[JamDav1982]

We had so much control we required a rashford worldie to win the game.

The game is midfield was good, but not some standard we should use that game to set.

Howe played right into our hands, other managers and certainly Enrique with a fully fit team won't do that, even with him missing the front 3 he likely won't.

False.

It was brilliant midfield performance where utterly dominated the likes of the great Tonali.

 

[JamDav1982]

Attacking wise, surely no-one would deny that the point of slower, safer build-ups is to open a sustained window of opportunity for combinations around the box. That is the only attacking style that benefits particularly from that style of moderation.

If we wanted to play for long shots or crosses, there are easier and more conducive ways to score goals through those weapons.

Defensively, the point of slower, safer build-ups is to defend through possession. A valid strategy with its own pros and cons. I would prefer trying to score more goals instead. That's all I'm saying.

Frenkie and Pedri play the ball forward all the time.

They just have far more intelligence than likes of Casado who plays it to first man he sees open so often.

What is the ideal midfield in the world now that would rather play like?

Frenkie came on v Oviedo and passed the ball forward with far more quality and more often and with more range than Casado to win the game.

Both Pedri and Frenkie were getting ball forward v Sociedad the other night.

As proven.. there is nothing they are doing that is stopping long range efforts or goals from balls forward early or into box.

 

[Porque]

This was the lineup then: Ter Stegen, Koundé, Araujo, Cubarsí, Cancelo; Pedri. Gundogan. De Jong; Lamimne Yamal, Lewandowski and Raphinha.

Stronger than what we can field now.

The fact that the lineup looks so good today is testament to how much Flick got the best out of them.

Back then that lineup wasn't good enough to compete with a pre Bellend, pre Baguette Madrid in alot of the forums eyes.

Obviously Pedri and Lameen have grown a ton since then. Cubarsi, not so much, his ball playing back then was more uncapped and better.

 

[jamrock]

The fact that the lineup looks so good today is testament to how much Flick got the best out of them.

Back then that lineup wasn't good enough to compete with a pre Bellend, pre Baguette Madrid.

Obviously Pedri and Lameen have grown a ton since then. Cubarsi, not so much, his ball playing back then was more uncapped and better.

We were more or less equal to Madrid in both the league clasico's tbh and lost on fine details and a worldie from Bellingham.

Actually we were better than them in both league games in the overall game, but results are what matter and what will be remembered.