Camp Nou

JamDav1982

Senior Member
I don't like seeing fans constantly jump on the best president the club had. If Laporta, the best president this club had, does not manage to make the model function, then for me it's even more indication the model is unsustainable. And the discussion about private ownership in FC Barcelona, at least partly, is a mere question of when not if.

I highly doubt the next president after Laporta is gonna have to deal with the mess Laporta took on in these 4 years. Net spent on squad at Championship levels in England, with every player registration being a legal battle and an excericise of imagination and loophole findings.

Terrible logic.

'Laporta cant fail. If he makes a mess of it that just proves nothing else was possible'.

Excuses in years early here.

Squad at Championship level? What utter drivel.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Terrible logic.

'Laporta cant fail. If he makes a mess of it that just proves nothing else was possible'.

Excuses in years early here.

Squad at Championship level? What utter drivel.

Can you read? I said net spend on squad.

Good logic. If your most successful president can't make the system work, then others are gonna have even less chances.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
All players Laporta did not have to pay a penny for to bring in and at club before he arrived.

'Championship Level'

MATS
Pena
Mingueza
Emerson
Roberto
Araujo
Lenglet
Chadi
Todibo
Cubarsi
Balde
Alba
Jofre
FDJ
Pedri
Casado
Busquets
Bernal
Nico
Ilaix
Yamal
Dembele
Trincao
Fati
Messi
Griezmann

The biggest plus to Barca squad have been the players already at club before Laporta arrived and coming through to allow to cover the low net spend.

Some left for fees.. some to free up FFP space. Other major parts in 2 titles.

Arguing that a midfield of FDJ, Pedri and Gavi etc is 'Championship level'.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
imagine trying to land a bunch on someone for literally 10+ years, never once being successful and still trying.

Keep barking at the moon lol.

Their is no world in which refinancing the debt and getting some breathing room is a negative.

This stadium will pay for itself and generate another 70-100m per year easily.

The only way this doesn't work is if someone stupid in the future, finances again for a 12% interest rate or something dumb like that.

The average interest over the life of the loan will work out to be around 3%, because this stadium will be refinanced again another 2/3 times before it's paid off, because that's the smart thing to do, so if anything future presidents will see more money from the stadium, as the interest rate decreases over time, the refi was what 5% I think.

Future presidents are fucked
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
imagine trying to land a bunch on someone for literally 10+ years, never once being successful and still trying.

Keep barking at the moon lol.

Their is no world in which refinancing the debt and getting some breathing room is a negative.

This stadium will pay for itself and generate another 70-100m per year easily.

The only way this doesn't work is if someone stupid in the future, finances again for a 12% interest rate or something dumb like that.

The average interest over the life of the loan will work out to be around 3%, because this stadium will be refinanced again another 2/3 times before it's paid off, because that's the smart thing to do, so if anything future presidents will see more money from the stadium, as the interest rate defenses over time, the refi was what 5% I think.

Future presidents are fucked

From the lad who wanted them to sign CVC deal and build the 2007 Foster design for the stadium.

The lad who thought Soranio left with Laporta etc.

The lad who thinks taking as much Nike money upfront as possible makes sense.

Not a clue.

Bark at the moon.
 

NKMaribor

Active member
Loan about proximity 1.5b
Interesting rate 3%
APR daily, can do monthly, either way this is key in your calculator.

Loan length 30 years.

Repayment: proximity 80m per year

Projected revenue growth conservatively 180m more per year, even if your adjust for sale of VIP seats.

Because that sale of VIP seats, is 1 standard stuff and will be used to do something that brings more value today.

TIME
VALUE
OF
Money & opportunity cost is key on that one


Conclusion Future the future board is fucked.

Barca is nowhere near 3%.

Anyway, the famous it will pay for itself rhetoric. It has buried many.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Barca is nowhere near 3%.

Anyway, the famous it will pay for itself rhetoric. It has buried many.

I know, read more yah Madrid bitch.

It will average 3% over the 30 years or close to it, we will refinance again.

Even at 5% the repayment is something like 95m. Still way less than projected increase.

But it will average 3-4%.. guaranteed
 

Loki

Well-known member
Now it's up to the city council. Barca did what they asked and got the certificate of completion for phase 1.

Barcelona have obtained the Certificate of Completion (CFO) for the first phase of the Spotify Camp Nou renovation, which gives the stadium a capacity of 27,000. The document will now be passed to the Barcelona City Council, who need to grant the first occupancy permit. The club hopes to have it ready for Sunday’s game against Getafe, but if not, it should be in place for the Real Sociedad clash on the 28th. [@ferrancorreas]
 

BusiTheKing

Senior Member
Depressingly bland stadium this new one. From the outside it looks like some google dongle you buy to connect your speakers to the internet or some shit like that.

Can't get over how beatiful the old one was in comparison.
 

FCBarca

Truth
CFO for 1A has been obtained and now up for City Council to issue permit for 27k - Getafe may be possible for Camp Nou but as already rumoured, otherwise definitive for La Real on 28th
 

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