Camp Nou

[Andresito]

Not just outside, it's probably inside too. The club films or allows to film a part of the interior that is finished and looks great but there are probably huge sections where the work is far from finished but some don't get it and prefer to think it's all a big conspiracy against the club. And of course nobody here has any idea about Spain's laws about construction and safety. But yeah, it's Tebas and the mayor is an Espanyol fan, that's easier to understand to simpletons than complex laws and construction.

Yes probably. Like I've said before it's very hard to combine accessible areas and construction site, especially with so many people involved.

What I don't understand is the constant deceptive claims from Laporta and the club. One would think the second time they would be more careful about what they promise and not announce until it's 110% clear.

Either way, when all this is done people will quickly forget what happened prior.

 

[Loki]

Like I've said before it's very hard to combine accessible areas and construction site

Yes, but they already finished more or less the access points for p1 (The big stairs for gol sur, the main tribune entrance and another point at the gol sur-lateral corner. Meaning they should have discussed it with the city, that these three access points are sufficient for the first phase opening.

 

[TheStig]

I'm not sure how it works in Spain but I know exactly how it works in another EU country (the laws are probably similar). This is not a political decision but an administrative one. It's not about what the mayor thinks about the club and Laporta but it's about proofs of safety, following regulations etc.

I also suspect the partial openings is only Laporta's idea (another lie). I think it's very possible the City won't give permission until the whole 2 rings and completely finished for 60000 fans. In that case this could mean we'll be the whole season away from CN but that's just my thinking with experience from my country, maybe it's different in Spain and they'll really allow it for 27000 first.

 

[JamDav1982]

Saying it is a political decision from council as Barca chose Limak is moronic anyway.

For one Barca could sue them if they are making up their own rules and not adhering to their own saftey laws etc all just to shaft Barca..

But even more... the council are elected.. it would be career suicide for them to be seen to preventing the most popular institution in the city to move back due to personal grievances.

It is obvious the club have lied.. they lie all the time.. and now try to blame council etc and some folk lap it up.

The folk lapping it up in media seem to be less and less though and firmly blaming club for the lies and false claims.

 

[jamrock]

Daaah, it's obviously an administrative issue.

Thanks for telling us the obvious Joan.

The Espanyol & Madrid plants on the city council are playing games.

Time for us to leave Barcelona they offer us nothing.

 

[jamrock]

The CC probably watched too many final destination in their lives, see the big cranes over head and getting flashes of mass deaths

 

[FCBarca]

Yes, but they already finished more or less the access points for p1 (The big stairs for gol sur, the main tribune entrance and another point at the gol sur-lateral corner. Meaning they should have discussed it with the city, that these three access points are sufficient for the first phase opening.

We don't know what was discussed, what was expected or to what extent the current state meets requirements to grant occupancy permits. It's opaque and far from transparent, and not accidental. When the stakes involve public safety, UEFA deadlines, local political optics then ambiguity becomes a tool - either to buy time, deflect accountability, or negotiate leverage. It could happen anywhere but at Barcelona, more so - entorno

Barcelona’s phased re-opening of Camp Nou is a complex dance between technical compliance, bureaucratic scrutiny, and political undertones. While the club has made tangible progress, the opacity around the City Council’s criteria and deliberations leaves room for speculation—and yes, some of it is likely subjective or politically influenced.

For one, Phase 1A (27,000 seats in the South Goal and Tribune) had already received a certificate of completion from constructors Limak, which was submitted to the Barcelona City Council

Objective vs Subjective Criteria

• Structural integrity (DEKRA + Limak verify) - There is the public perception of safety outside of what DEKRA validates who are meant to be the independent buffer against political pressure
• Fire Exits, Evacuation plans/egress (DEKRA) - Political optics of reopening amid ongoing construction
• Environmental Compliance (DEKRA) - Political issue but this too is validated via DEKRA
• Accessibility standards (DEKRA + City Council) - Council dynamics & local elections heavily influenced on this irrespective of city but definitely in Barcelona

Even if DEKRA signs off, the City Council retains discretion to delay permits based on these softer factors. That’s where the political undertones creep in—especially in a city like Barcelona, where football is inseparable from civic identity. Laporta has helped the club rise like a phoenix from the ashes and opponents in the upcoming election will seek to derail at any cost - even to spite itself (the club)

 

[Andresito]

We don't know what was discussed, what was expected or to what extent the current state meets requirements to grant occupancy permits. It's opaque and far from transparent, and not accidental. When the stakes involve public safety, UEFA deadlines, local political optics then ambiguity becomes a tool - either to buy time, deflect accountability, or negotiate leverage. It could happen anywhere but at Barcelona, more so - entorno

Barcelona’s phased re-opening of Camp Nou is a complex dance between technical compliance, bureaucratic scrutiny, and political undertones. While the club has made tangible progress, the opacity around the City Council’s criteria and deliberations leaves room for speculation—and yes, some of it is likely subjective or politically influenced.

For one, Phase 1A (27,000 seats in the South Goal and Tribune) had already received a certificate of completion from constructors Limak, which was submitted to the Barcelona City Council

Objective vs Subjective Criteria

• Structural integrity (DEKRA + Limak verify) - There is the public perception of safety outside of what DEKRA validates who are meant to be the independent buffer against political pressure
• Fire Exits, Evacuation plans/egress (DEKRA) - Political optics of reopening amid ongoing construction
• Environmental Compliance (DEKRA) - Political issue but this too is validated via DEKRA
• Accessibility standards (DEKRA + City Council) - Council dynamics & local elections heavily influenced on this irrespective of city but definitely in Barcelona

Even if DEKRA signs off, the City Council retains discretion to delay permits based on these softer factors. That’s where the political undertones creep in—especially in a city like Barcelona, where football is inseparable from civic identity. Laporta has helped the club rise like a phoenix from the ashes and opponents in the upcoming election will seek to derail at any cost - even to spite itself (the club)

AI bot?

 

[FCBarca]

Michael bot

 

[Barcaman]

Damn that city council. Laporta was working hard all summer and this is how they repay him.