Benjamin Mendy

[Horatio]

Perused this thread and not a single post of mine jumping the gun. W.

Hope justice was served.

 

[Porque]

Said it before. You got to Taylor Swift it and make them sign contracts before doing the deed.

Ain't no world for a playa no mo.

 

[serghei]

The big question is.... can he play RB?

 

[Andresito]

Mendy RB
Greenwood LW

Let's go.

 

[Temptation]

Mendy RB
Greenwood LW

Let's go.

FC Rapecelona?

 

[jamrock]

Sign him up

 

[feggydinho]

Mendy's case is interesting, cause the guy was having orgies at various parties and didn't expect some of the women to later gang up on him. It's a shame that it cost him his career though what probably saved him was some of the evidence, like a video of the girl partaking in the sex and later calling it rape or voice messages of the girls bragging about having sex with Mendy and his friends on the same day they claimed to have been raped.

 

[serghei]

Mendy's case is interesting, cause the guy was having orgies at various parties and didn't expect some of the women to later gang up on him. It's a shame that it cost him his career though what probably saved him was some of the evidence, like a video of the girl partaking in the sex and later calling it rape or voice messages of the girls bragging about having sex with Mendy and his friends on the same day they claimed to have been raped.

Those women should do jail time without doubt. They do a huge disservice to real rape victims.

If I were him I'd sue everybody. He lost tens of millions.

 

[ajnotkeith]

Those women should do jail time without doubt. They do a huge disservice to real rape victims.

If I were him I'd sue everybody. He lost tens of millions.

Why should they do jail time? Do you think not being found guilty in court automatically means they were lying?

Do you think the glove actually didn't fit? Lol.

You are parroting a great way to silence all rape victims forever. It is one of those crimes that is notoriously hard to prosecute due to lack of any objective evidence in most cases, therefore, most cases won't be pursued or won't find a conviction. Especially against rich lawyers like Mendy's.

 

[serghei]

Why should they do jail time? Do you think not being found guilty in court automatically means they were lying?

You are parroting a great way to silence all rape victims forever. It is one of those crimes that is notoriously hard to prosecute due to lack of any objective evidence in most cases, therefore, most cases won't be pursued or won't find a conviction. Especially against rich lawyers like Mendy's.

No, that's not what I said.

I said lying to get someone convicted for something they didn't do should result in jail time for the accuser. And in the Mendy case, some women apparently lied to get him jailed for rape, knowing full well the sex was consensual.

The case became simple when the women were caught lying. This is different compared to a case where the accused gets away because of a lack of evidence.

In Mendy's defense, the case was dubious to begin with, because only certain kinds of girls go to sex orgies parties. Not the most credible accusers to begin with.

 

[serghei]

Also, when you don't find any evidence for something, it's usually because that thing didn't happen. Sure, in some cases, something happens and you still don't find evidence, but to assume that is usually the case is simply problematic for how the justice system works.

Cases like the OJ affair you refer to are terrible for the justice system, but this Mendy case is on the opposite end of the spectrum. Doesn't have anything in common.

Still, it's probable that not all women that accused Mendy lied full-stop. It's also possible that some are simply woke idiots that don't know the distinction between rape and consensual sex with no emotional implications. You have to be extremely dumb to not see the difference, but people are easily capable of that level of stupidity.

 

[ajnotkeith]

Also, when you don't find any evidence for something, it's usually because that thing didn't happen. Sure, in some cases, something happens and you still don't find evidence, but to assume that is usually the case is simply problematic for how the justice system works.

Cases like the OJ affair you refer to are terrible for the justice system, but this Mendy case is on the opposite end of the spectrum. Doesn't have anything in common.

Still, it's probable that not all women that accused Mendy lied full-stop. It's also possible that some are simply woke idiots that don't know the distinction between rape and consensual sex with no emotional implications. You have to be extremely dumb to not see the difference, but people are easily capable of that level of stupidity.

It's not that no evidence is found. It's that there is usually never enough in rape to cross the boundary of 'reasonable doubt' (in UK law, this essentially means that you should not vote guilty as a member of a jury if you are not certain a crime was committed).

With something like rape, save videographic or physical evidence of an attack, due to the intimate nature of it and lack of witnesses for obvious reasons getting over that boundary is very hard. It almost always boils down to her word against his. It is one of the hardest crimes to convict for.

Then on top of that, you get those few women who do lie and plants doubts in the heads of jurors, and then you have the world-class legal representation of Mendy who will surely be pursuing any way possible to discredit victims.

Greenwood is a great example - despite everything we saw, due to his gfs non cooperation, the CPS didn't even feel they had enough to take it to court let alone secure a conviction. Would you seriously say with confidence he is innocent if I asked you, just because he wasn't convicted?
Rape is one of those crimes that we have to morally judge as the legal system is not effective at doing it themselves.

 

[Messigician]

If I had to guess based on the verdicts, he was fucking easy women that flocked up to his sleazy parties. Some of those women couldn't take it that they were just used for sex by the rich and famous guy and tried to ruin his life.

Tried?

 

[serghei]

It's not that no evidence is found. It's that there is usually never enough in rape to cross the boundary of 'reasonable doubt' (in UK law, this essentially means that you should not vote guilty as a member of a jury if you are not certain a crime was committed).

With something like rape, save videographic or physical evidence of an attack, due to the intimate nature of it and lack of witnesses for obvious reasons getting over that boundary is very hard. It almost always boils down to her word against his. It is one of the hardest crimes to convict for.

Then on top of that, you get those few women who do lie and plants doubts in the heads of jurors, and then you have the world-class legal representation of Mendy who will surely be pursuing any way possible to discredit victims.

Greenwood is a great example - despite everything we saw, due to his gfs non cooperation, the CPS didn't even feel they had enough to take it to court let alone secure a conviction. Would you seriously say with confidence he is innocent if I asked you, just because he wasn't convicted?
Rape is one of those crimes that we have to morally judge as the legal system is not effective at doing it themselves.

I can agree with the general sentiment of this post, but in the Mendy case, it's really out of place. It's not about some poor girls that fell victim to a flawed system, it's about some lying girls that went to sex parties and tried to get the guy convicted of rape. Some even got caught lying on video and messaging.

Greenwood is a different case. In that case, the girl happens to love the guy. Nothing you can do about that, and it's not some Stockholm syndrome shit, it's just a toxic relationship that is assumed by both parties.

Neither case is a good example of what you say in your post. The nasty stuff for women usually happens outside of the public eye.

Greenwood was charged with domestic violence mind you, not rape, just to make things clear. He obviously was guilty, but the girl loves him and decided to forgive him. She is now apparently pregnant with his child. Can only hope he gets some anger management therapy.

 

[serghei]

I stand corrected, Greenwood was also charged with attempted rape. But the point still stands, can't do much when the victim loves the guy. At the end of the day, you also need to take smart decisions for yourself.