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What should the club prioritize


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Loki

Well-known member
Grimaldo would be a Bartomeu move. Pay 30+ m for a 30 year old backup without any resale value. We can't afford spending 30m on backups, we need to save the money for extensions and worldclass starting players.
La-Masia is the solution for backups, it should not change. Keep Martin and Fort, they're more than good enough as backups.
 

Barcaman

Administrator
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Grimaldo would be a Bartomeu move. Pay 30+ m for a 30 year old backup without any resale value. We can't afford spending 30m on backups, we need to save the money for extensions and worldclass starting players.
La-Masia is the solution for backups, it should not change. Keep Martin and Fort, they're more than good enough as backups.

Laporta signing 34 y.o. Lewa and then 60 mil on a backup Ferran wasn't exactly whole lot different.
 

Loki

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Laporta signing 34 y.o. Lewa and then 60 mil on a backup Ferran wasn't exactly whole lot different.
Lewa was a worldclass starting player and Ferran was Xavi's personal request and also a starting hope. I specifically mean spending too much on clear backups, or does anyone think he can rival Balde for the starting spot?
 

Barcaman

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Lewa was a worldclass starting player and Ferran was Xavi's personal request and also a starting hope. I specifically mean spending too much on clear backups, or does anyone think he can rival Balde for the starting spot?

Balde is overrated. Already made a claim elsewhere that there are at least 3 Spanish players that are better players: Cucu, Grimaldo, Cardona. Fancy that Spanish Benfica left back as well, forgot his name. And there are many others non-spanish options.

That being said, I agree, money should be spent elsewhere. Like new striker, gk or a left winger.
 

Loki

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Balde is overrated. Already made a claim elsewhere that there are at least 3 Spanish players that are better players: Cucu, Grimaldo, Cardona. Fancy that Spanish Benfica left back as well, forgot his name. And there are many others non-spanish options.

That being said, I agree, money should be spent elsewhere. Like new striker, gk or a left winger.
As long as Balde's development hasn't ended, I would still place my bets on him to become a starter for a decade. He made three steps forward in his first season under Flick and let's see how he does in his second.
Grimaldo will soon start to decline, as full-backs tend to decline before other positions together with wingers, due to their nature of being an explosive fast-pace player.
Also having played 7 years in the Portuguese league isn't the best performance proof either.
And I don't know about Cucu. His market-value on Transfermarkt is 30m, the half of Balde, while being in his prime. He gained much prominence in the Euros and because for Chelsea money is worthless.
I don't see them better than Balde, especially because Balde has by far the most potential in him as a 21 year old against near 30y and 27y.

It's going very good with Balde as starter, so if the club wants to change that position for a high fee, the new player needs to be 1-2 lvl above Balde and I don't know many who are right now.
 

Joan

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Grimaldo would be a Bartomeu move. Pay 30+ m for a 30 year old backup without any resale value. We can't afford spending 30m on backups, we need to save the money for extensions and worldclass starting players.
La-Masia is the solution for backups, it should not change. Keep Martin and Fort, they're more than good enough as backups.
Don’t believe it’s as simple as that in practice.

Fort has already wasted a year here, trying to be a backup for a player who has played every match for club and country. He will either prove useful to us in the long run or have some resale value, but neither of those can happen if he remains on the bench for another season. He must leave in the summer.

As for Martin and Fort being good enough, it’s evident from the current struggle with Balde out injured, or by looking at Kounde’s minutes played tally.

To fight on all fronts, we need depth. Not barely serviceable backups like Martin or future prospects like Fort, but players who will be part of the rotation. Grimaldo could provide that but he’s incredibly expensive; someone like Ratiu, Vanderson, or even Mingueza on the other hand might be our guy.

In the summer, we will be in the market for solid backups for the fullbacks and a quality winger.
 

Loki

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To fight on all fronts, we need depth.
We're fighting on all fronts right now with the current squad. Won a clasico final a few days ago with Martin as starter. People need to relax, we don't need to hunt the best individualists. The most important is a functioning team and La-Masia boys, who are ready to die for the shirt on the field play a huge role in that.

Bartomeu started to spend 20-40m on every bum because our coaches/sporting-directors thought every time they found some good solution outside of La-Masia. The result was Boatengs, Pacos, Gomes, Turans, Matheus and other bums that ruined us.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Most teams that win, don't have quality back ups for all positions, even city when you look at there squad over the years have spots in there team with no real depth.

You can't build a team with 22 players who think they could be potential starts, that's FM/FIFA football not reality.

You need about 4 players in that Martin,fort category, but the coach has to give t
hem serviceable minutes in things Copa games, like pep use to do.
 

Jozh

Member
As long as Balde's development hasn't ended, I would still place my bets on him to become a starter for a decade. He made three steps forward in his first season under Flick and let's see how he does in his second.
Grimaldo will soon start to decline, as full-backs tend to decline before other positions together with wingers, due to their nature of being an explosive fast-pace player.
Also having played 7 years in the Portuguese league isn't the best performance proof either.
And I don't know about Cucu. His market-value on Transfermarkt is 30m, the half of Balde, while being in his prime. He gained much prominence in the Euros and because for Chelsea money is worthless.
I don't see them better than Balde, especially because Balde has by far the most potential in him as a 21 year old against near 30y and 27y.
I agree with you as it pertains to a squad building perspective. The only LB I would rather have than Balde is Nuno Mendes. Nuno is better than Balde, however they share the same insane profiles. Cucu to me isn't really good at anything, just a decent generalist. Grimaldo on the other hand is too much of a specialist and cannot defend and is often shielded as a LWB. Balde at just 21, has an insane ball carrying trait and is still developing both defensively and offensively. Others may be slightly better players as of right now, but their profiles are worse.
 

Joan

Well-known member
We're fighting on all fronts right now with the current squad. Won a clasico final a few days ago with Martin as starter. People need to relax, we don't need to hunt the best individualists. The most important is a functioning team.
Indeed but it's easy to see how fatigue has affected the team lately due to no depth, especially at certain positions. Kounde has played 52 matches for the club this season, averaging over 84 minutes per match, for example.

No reason we don't move for depth at FB. Would give us a fair advantage.
 

Joan

Well-known member
Balde has been performing better than all of them. Especially in the last few months.

We need depth, not a replacement. Wouldn't be able to find one either way.
 

Barcaman

Administrator
Staff member
Balde has been performing better than all of them. Especially in the last few months.

We need depth, not a replacement. Wouldn't be able to find one either way.

Raphinha too. As is Lewa versus Haaland or any striker. Also Inigo or Kounde.
And who in their right mind would claim they are best at their positions.
Just because this system makes players over perform it doesn't mean others wouldn't slot in and perform even better.
 

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