9 - Robert Lewandowski

Fati_Future_BallonDor

Fati_Future_BallonDor

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Maradona37 said:
Lol calm down. It was the fifth and sixth goals of a 6-0 win. Lewandowski lives for meaningless goals like that. He and Ronaldo have scored more pointless goals that make zero difference to outcomes than any player since about 1960.

@Messi983
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dude ive said it many times to you, you cant be neutral when topic is CR7 (or even Lewy)

Lewy and CR are top3 with Messi in most knockout stage goals in cl and ofc they have some stattpadding goals like Maradona had, R9 had and the great Pele had

dont respond to this post, you cant win here, just admit you are biased and stop it here to avoid an unstoppable L !
 
Rebels Blaugranes

Rebels Blaugranes

Breško
Fati_Future_BallonDor said:
dude ive said it many times to you, you cant be neutral when topic is CR7 (or even Lewy)

Lewy and CR are top3 with Messi in most knockout stage goals in cl and ofc they have some stattpadding goals like Maradona had, R9 had and the great Pele had

dont respond to this post, you cant win here, just admit you are biased and stop it here to avoid an unstoppable L !
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talk to me,I am as objective as it comes.
 
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Maradona37

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Fati_Future_BallonDor said:
dude ive said it many times to you, you cant be neutral when topic is CR7 (or even Lewy)

Lewy and CR are top3 with Messi in most knockout stage goals in cl and ofc they have some stattpadding goals like Maradona had, R9 had and the great Pele had

dont respond to this post, you cant win here, just admit you are biased and stop it here to avoid an unstoppable L !
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What big games in the CL (other than the Real Madrid game) has Lewa really performed in or scored in? Most of his goals come in smaller games.

Xavi, Modric and Iniesta are far bigger legends and more talented footballers than him, some people just care about goals. Shows how little they know about the game that they judge the ability of a footballer solely by how many goals they score, and that's it.

You say I am copping Ls when you draw a parallel between R9, Pele and Maradona, and C Ronaldo and Lewa :lol: Those guys had far more to their game outside goals, that's the point!
 
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Maradona37

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Fati_Future_BallonDor said:
'He and Ronaldo have scored more pointless goals that make zero difference to outcomes than any player since about 1960.'

How wrong is this post?
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How's it wrong? They've both scored tons and tons of goals that made no objective outcome to matches. Yes they have scored big goals too, but they've done a hell of a lot of stat padding. Messi has too but not as much and he's a far better all-round player than them.

@Messi983 agrees with me, among others.
 
Rebels Blaugranes

Rebels Blaugranes

Breško
Maradona37 said:
What big games in the CL (other than the Real Madrid game) has Lewa really performed in or scored in? Most of his goals come in smaller games.

Xavi and Iniesta are far bigger legends and more talented footballers than him, some people just care about goals.

You say I am copping Ls when you draw a parallel between R9, Pele and Maradona, and C Ronaldo and Lewa :lol: Those guys had far more to their game outside goals, that's the point!
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I agree with everything about Lewa and Xaviniesta and first paragraph but disagree about Ronaldo.
 
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Maradona37

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Rebels Blaugranes said:
I agree with everything about Lewa and Xaviniesta and first paragraph but disagree about Ronaldo.
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Ronaldo clearly hasn't got the all-round game of Maradona and Pele. That is undeniable. R9 is more disputable, but I'd still say R9 had a better all-round game.

Cristiano Ronaldo doesn't help himself with his obsession over goals and his belief that biggest goalscorer equals best footballer. He just encourages people that believe he is a stat padder with his attitude. Also his goal hanging for the last 11-13 years. Even a guy who works at the cinema flat out came out and said (without any prompting) that Ronaldo is a top player but very boring to watch. I didn't even mention Ronaldo, he did.
 
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Maradona37

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I am not saying Ronaldo and Lewandowski aren't great players, because that would be foolish.

I am saying they get more credit than they deserve RELATIVE TO THEIR PEERS, past and present, who I consider even more elite than they are. That's not the same as saying they're not excellent players.
 
Rebels Blaugranes

Rebels Blaugranes

Breško
Maradona37 said:
Ronaldo clearly hasn't got the all-round game of Maradona and Pele. That is undeniable. R9 is more disputable, but I'd still say R9 had a better all-round game.

Cristiano Ronaldo doesn't help himself with his obsession over goals and his belief that biggest goalscorer equals best footballer. Also his goal hanging for the last 11-13 years. Even a guy who works at the cinema flat out came out and said (without any prompting) that Ronaldo is a top player but very boring to watch. I didn't even mention Ronaldo, he did.
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Ronaldo has never had Maradona Messi Pele peak level. And?

Doesnt mean I cant rate him as 4th best and the best European ever by far.

I know some people will disagree so I am taking the high road.

Edit : I know about the cinema comment.

Everyone knows how much I like the guy.
 
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Maradona37

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Rebels Blaugranes said:
You actually have great knowledge tbf. Can tell its nowhere near as simple as goals only,also.

Agree about Lewangoalski.

Everyone knows how much I rate Ronaldo though.
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Thanks. As I have said before, when you play football yourself, at whatever level, you truly get an idea for the qualitative aspects of the game and how some players are more interested in accumulating stats and other players are better in general play. When you play the game yourself you truly understand its nuances better than if you did not play much.
 
Rebels Blaugranes

Rebels Blaugranes

Breško
Maradona37 said:
Thanks. As I have said before, when you play football yourself, at whatever level, you truly get an idea for the qualitative aspects of the game and how some players are more interested in accumulating stats and other players are better in general play. When you play the game yourself you truly understand its nuances better than if you did not play much.
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You have played much more than me.

You seem to know true football things like how the game is played etc and I am a God in football trivia(which is mostly useless info tbf) but still extremely knowledgeable.

I am an internet/wiki guy. No shame in saying it.
 
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