8 - Pedri

[JamDav1982]

Gundo got 20m for that one season at Barca.

That is the same for a season on the books as a 50m DM on 10m a season.

And that is amortized over 5 years when back then could amortize over longer.

Can add the cost of Romeu also and also Inigo even further.

Xavi chose to spend that money and have Romeu as the DM.

 

[JamDav1982]

And for the money spend on Rashford you could sign a better fullback instead of Kounde who you trash constantly.

I agree.

But easier than that you could sell Kounde.

Why would you sign a RB and keep Kounde? Makes no sense.

 

[serghei]

I agree.

But easier than that you could sell Kounde.

Why would you sign a RB and keep Kounde? Makes no sense.

Or Martin. Point is just because Rashford got signed doesn't mean Flick wouldn't want other positions equally improved.

 

[JamDav1982]

Or Martin.

Indeed but irrelevant.

Xavi had the money to buy a DM.

He had it when Barca paid 200m+ on players in 2022 and then again in summer 2023.

Didnd do it.. but signed Kessie, Gundogan, Romeu and by reports wanted Rodriguez for free from Betis if had stayed.

Money that could have paid what Arsenal did for Zubi.

The truth is maybe he wanted that but Zubi didnt want to play under Xavi at Barca anyway.

Alternative being Gundo and Romeu is wild.

 

[serghei]

Indeed but irrelevant.

Xavi had the money to buy a DM.

Money that could have paid what Arsenal did for Zubi.

The truth is maybe he wanted that but Zubi didnt want to play under Xavi at Barca anyway.

Alternative being Gundo and Romeu is wild.

Gundogan is not a DM. You're telling me Xavi could have signed Zubimendi, and had funds for it, but he preferred Romeu as he thought he is a better DM, is that it?

Again, please don't waste my time.

 

[JamDav1982]

Gundogan is not a DM. You're telling me Xavi could have signed Zubimendi, and had funds for it, but he preferred Romeu as he thought he is a better DM, is that it?

Again, please don't waste my time.

Thats the point... Xavi spent money on Gundo and Romeu that could have been used on a DM.. he didnt.

The fact Gundo was not a DM is even more to my point.

He wasnt adressing it.

Didnt in 2022 when spent over 200m and club gave out 10m contracts x2 and didnt in 2023.

 

[serghei]

What happened is Gundogan was coming after a good season at City as a false 9 so to speak, he was free agent, we took the chance as we could move him quickly and get a younger player when funds hopefully got better. As it happened. We shipped him and got Olmo in the same summer.

Now surely you understand this but are just going in one of your argumentative rampage stints.

 

[JamDav1982]

What happened is Gundogan was coming after a good season at City as a false 9 so to speak, he was free agent, we took the chance as we could move him quickly and get a younger player when funds hopefully got better. As it happened. Sold him and got Olmo.

He cost 20m for that season and was another AM/Box to box when had legs.. in a team littered with them

Gundogan absolutely did not play false nine for City that season what an bizarre lie.

He played beside Rodri with freedom to get up park into the box.

Barca didnt 'sell' Gundo.

All money Xavi spent while not adressing DM.. despite the claim he knew need for it.

The rational for signing him is irrelevant.

The point is they decided that being more important than a DM.

 

[serghei]

Ok man, both Xavi and Flick were swimming in money, but they simply are clueless idiots and can't use the funds smartly. All these top players for 60-70m are there to be taken but we are just so stupid we mostly go for rejects and free agents on short deals.

 

[JamDav1982]

Ok man, both Xavi and Flick are swimming in money, but they simply are clueless idiots and can't use the funds smartly. All these top players for 60-70m are there to be taken but we are just so stupid we mostly go for rejects and free agents.

Xavi spent over 200m and in 2022 and they gave out big contracts.

Didnt address DM.

Pushed for Gundo the next summer and didnt address DM then either when for same FFP space could sign 50m+ DM on books.

So the idea he thought it oh so important falls flat based on his actions.

Just a lie as usual.

Xavi is an idiot in your scenario not mine.

He oh so desperately saw the need for a DM but never addressed it bar Romeu.

 

[serghei]

Xavi spent over 200m and in 2022 and they gave out big contracts.

Didnt address DM.

So the idea he thought it oh so important falls flat bases on his actions.o

Did what he had to do and won a league with a 2.5 points per game average. The discussion was next summer. We needed funds to improve the squad and we didn't get them.

I just posted in Raphinha thread the net spend table since 2021. We are 128th club in Europe in terms of actual investments in the squad, in terms of transfer fees paid to build the squad we have now.

 

[JamDav1982]

Did what he had to do and won a league with a 2.5 points per game average. The discussion was next summer. We needed funds to improve the squad and we didn't get them.

I just posted in Raphinha thread the net spend table since 2021. We are 128th club in Europe in terms of actual investments in transfer fees.

False.

The discussion was that Busi was coming to an end and needed a DM that summer when spening money.

Same again the following summer when had less of it but still enough to address that position once Busi left.

The net spend is irrelevant here as debating what they did have to spend and what did with it.

 

[serghei]

False.

The discussion was that Busi was coming to an end and needed a DM that summer when spening money.

Same again the following summer when had less of it but still enough to address that position once Busi left.

The net spend is irrelevant here as debating what they did have to spend and when.

Rubbish. Busi being there in summer of 2022 meant the funds had to be invested in fixing more immediate needs. And the result was we won the league that season after 3 years of no title.

Xavi knew what had to be done in terms of squad building, he just didn't get the funds, grew frustrated looking at the rivals he had to face and the funds they had compared to us, and that was it.

Flick knows too. Same situation, more or less.

 

[JamDav1982]

Rubbish. Busi being there in summer of 2022 meant the funds had to be invested in fixing more immediate needs. And the result was we won the league that season after 3 years of no title.

False.

Was all discussed that DM needed to be adressed as Busi was slowing and would be gone soon and that was the summer when had most money to spend.

Why didnt Xavi address DM when Busi left seeing as he didnt in 2022?

 

[serghei]

False.

Was all discussed that DM needed to be adressed as Busi was slowing and would be gone soon and that was the summer when had most money to spend.

Why didnt Xavi address DM when Busi left seeing as he didnt in 2022?

He did. Board got him Oriol Romeu .