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It's not voodoo, Araujo is one of the best 1v1 specialists around. Surely you're not suggesting Araujo isn't actually good?
sounds like envy if anything
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It's not voodoo, Araujo is one of the best 1v1 specialists around. Surely you're not suggesting Araujo isn't actually good?
sounds like envy if anything
Birdy
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It's not voodoo, Araujo is one of the best 1v1 specialists around. Surely you're not suggesting Araujo isn't actually good?
Don't feed the troll
Wolfe is always up to that shit after a bad Barca result
Total-Football
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U mean utterly annihilated venicia us usual. One successful dribble vs 9 times he takes the ball from his ass like a baby
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Not sure if those numbers check out. Proof?
Neeraj
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He was good, with that exceptional recovery and clearance against Vinicius. Vini Jr is one of the top dribblers in the world, you don't expect anyone to shut him down 10/10 times that is just stupid. He'd get past average defenders 8-9 times out of 10 and the fact that with Araujo it's like a 50-50 or even lower, tells you how good Araujo is.
serghei
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You're talking about pure 1 vs 1 duels. That's only an aspect of defending. Vinicius work off the ball was excellent in this match. Lost Araujo plenty of times by just moving him out of position.
Vinicius is far more than just a head down and go 1 vs 1 all the time player. Much smarter than someone like Dembele for example, and much more dangerous as a result.
I would say Araujo and Kounde were both far from blocking him last night overall.
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Total-Football
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Neeraj
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Vinicius did drift in a lot to pull Araujo out of position, but I don't think Araujo could follow him any more than he did, as then he'd leave Busquets isolated on the flank against the Madrid LB. One of Busquets or Kessie should have been on Vinicius when he started to pull Araujo out of position. Kessie did it for sometime, but he's just really slow and Busquets...let's not talk about him.
serghei
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Imo, Araujo's biggest strenght is 1 vs 1 defending, and his biggest weakness is exchanges of positions with his partners in defense. Also counts that we have no RB in the team basically, so these players are often having to play on multiple positions during a season, which of course it affects the stability of the team.
Most of the marking exchanges Araujo had with Kounde and Alonso were a disaster in the dynamics of the match. Usually it's not a problem, but vs elite Ballon d'Or level players like Vinicius and Benzema, it can be very costly when they are on.
For example, Kounde and Araujo couldn't decide on the spot who takes Benzema and who stands a bit closer to Vini at the 1st goal. Both rush out to Benzema and leave Vinicius all alone. That's a defensive mistake, since the position Vinicius has is insanely dangerous. You don't double rush for a wider player and leave an unmarked player all open centrally at 8 meters.
These mistakes can be costly vs elite players. It's not a huge blunder, and it happens (especially since the defender's main instinct is to rush out and block the player with the ball), but we did make many errors of defensive interpretation and Xavi will be looking to address that I think.
Ancelotti did surprise Xavi with how mobile he had Vinicius playing. Vinicius had much more freedom to exploit central areas of the pitch than as usual. And our synchronizations in coping with that extra overloading of zones was bad.
That's the way you can exploit Araujo's weaknesses, not by staying very wide and looking to force 1 vs 1s all the time. He will be hard to beat in that scenario I agree with you on that.
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serghei
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True about the slow nature of our midfield. Normally, a fast midfielder would have tracked back at a much better speed and intensity than Roberto at that goal, and he could have been in the position to help out.
There was a video from the Betis game, with Christensen and De Jong tracking back and doing a tremendously fast transition from attack to defense in the last minutes. With the midfield we had vs Madrid, that was terrible in this match. And it's not tactical, but athletics related. Roberto, Busi, Alonso, Kessie simply are not quick enough to come back in time when they are caught up.
They know what they have to do, since defensive transition is fairly simple and has to do with motivation and intensity, but doing what you know you have to do is still hard if you don't have what it takes in your legs in terms of speed and acceleration.
JamDav1982
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Gavi was just as slow when moved into midfield and couldnt get back either. If anything the midfield got worse when Gavi was put central in place of Kessie.
But 'best ball winner in world' and all that.
But 'best ball winner in world' and all that.
Man you're just like a bad program that runs the same script because of a virus.JamDav1982
Senior Member
Indeed are you.
Trying to blame every other player than your 'elite mentality' Gavi who is 'best ball winner in world'.
Should expect more from him than Roberto not to be just as bad and worse than Kessie..but just forget how bad he was and focus on players who are not starters.
Trying to blame every other player than your 'elite mentality' Gavi who is 'best ball winner in world'.
Should expect more from him than Roberto not to be just as bad and worse than Kessie..but just forget how bad he was and focus on players who are not starters.
unknowngenius10
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Xavi will ruin him
Not a single player has improved since he joined the club
Not a single player has improved since he joined the club
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