JamDav1982
Senior Member
Insult to likes of Balde to band him with Casado.
Insult to likes of Balde to band him with Casado.
Not at all. One legged limited players and lbs who can't cross like Balde should count themselves lucky to be playing for top clubs. But class fell drastically across the table so it is what it is.
I wasn’t there to witness it but I heard Oleguer was such a big meme in the online discourse of the Rijkaard’s Barça era.Tale as old as time 'it was better in my day'.
We are harping back to a time when GVB got to a WC final and the full backs were Gio, Van Der Wiel an out of position Ramos and Capdevilla and a CL final where Oleguer was on other side of pitch from Gio while Arsenal had Eboue at RB.
Rose tinted spectacles about the good old days.
For all this 'football has got worse and Balde is a symptom of that'.
Below is a list of the full back pairings of the CL winning teams in the mid 2000s which pretty much covers Gios time at Barca.
Its a largely whos who of mediocre players and likes of Costacurta old and out of position.
2003 - RB Costacurta/LB Kaladze
2004 - RB P Ferreira/LB Nuno Valente
2005 - RB Steve Finnan/LB Djimi Traore
2006 - RB Oleguer/LB Gio
2007- RB Oddo/LB Jankulovski
2008 - RB Wes Brown/LB Patrice Evra
Fullback is the only position on the pitch where it doesn't matter if you have no weak foot. You are always on the side of your stronger foot and don't have to cut inside on your weak foot.Not at all. One legged limited players and lbs who can't cross like Balde should count themselves lucky to be playing for top clubs. But class fell drastically across the table so it is what it is.
Malvolio and Barcaman will look very silly by the time Balde is 28 or so.
And Barca could have won CL with Gerard Martin. What does that prove?
Also don't see the point comparing defensive and offensive full backs.
Abidal and Alves had different roles as did Oleguer and Gio.
That's false. His peak (so far) was in the second half of last season. We missed him big time vs InterBalde played better in his breakout season. Players progressing season after season often does not happen.
Barca went out in semi finals conceding 7 with Gerard Martin.. not quite the same as winning it.
Yeah, came seconds to final on the back of 3 Gerard Martin assists.
We can play this game all night long.
2 assists, not 3. Could have been 3 if Garcia scored his chance. But he was also at fault for the late equalizer. had a mare in the first leg as well. You can't argue in good faith we did not miss his recovery pace vs Dumfries, who absolutely raped our backlineYeah, came seconds to final on the back of 3 Gerard Martin assists.
We can play this game all night long.
But they didnt... they went out in semi finals.
If you want to look at other full backs who got to finals back then can see Eboue etc.
Quite clearly the standard of full backs for the top teams in Europe in mid 00s was weak and nothing like this golden age as made out.