21 - Frenkie de Jong

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
Legend?.

Will never be that for Barca, Rakitic has more of a case for that and he's not one.

He'll be remembered as a good player that did a job for us.
There is much to come, he is in his prime years and probably won't move until he is done at the top level.

Who knows? Entirely possible we end up winning a CL or two with him in the team.
 

draconifire

NTC with a Positive attitude
We continue to trim down on this, but as a competitive club with the best young players in game it perfectly logical to have a high wage bill. What was not functional was the wage to income imbalance by the board's predecessors (73% at its peak) with the goal closer to 55% now

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I honestly think we should aim for that high 300, low 400 range. So 390-420M

Give bonuses in terms of performance and UCL. But that's it.

Out of the top 10, we are the only one with he best weather, a great city, and amazing scenery. On top, we are one of the best clubs in the world.

We should definitely try to low-ball players.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
There is much to come, he is in his prime years and probably won't move until he is done at the top level.

Who knows? Entirely possible we end up winning a CL or two with him in the team.

It shows how poor their 'Gavi/Casado are better than Frenkie and he is done' arguments are when this is what they have to turn to.

As ever it is mental gymnastics and latest 'strawman'.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
There is much to come, he is in his prime years and probably won't move until he is done at the top level.

Who knows? Entirely possible we end up winning a CL or two with him in the team.

It's definitely possible, would love that.

He won't be one of the best players in the team if that happens though, just middle of the pack, so still won't be a legend, but will improve in standings considerably.

I can't see a team winning the CL, Euros, WC with him as a top 3-5 player from that team.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Bar Yamal no current Barca player has won a Euros or a WC as top 5 player in team and the strength of intl teams matter.

Not that put any real importance on Nations League as some do but if want to look at that he was better than any Spain midfielder over two legs..but Spain were the better team with better players overall and wont through on penalties.

If Netherlands dont win anything it doesnt make Otamendi better than VVD or De Paul better than Reijnders/Frenkie etc.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
If we win the CL players who will for sure be better than him in that run.

In to particular other.

Lewa
Raph
Yamal
Pedri
Garcia
Cubarsi
Olmo
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Those lot should have tried to be better than him v Inter and may have went through.

Was best player after Yamal as Inzaghi said.

Absolutely dominated the likes of Barella easily and midfield and Yamal were the two areas Barca were most dominant.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
That would be a fit Gavi who to date has never been better than FDJ or even close and who new rules get made up for in that it 'takes 2 years to get back from ACL'.

Gavi who at 21 has never started a single European knockout game Barca have won.

Gavi who gets lies made up for him like 'never behind Frenkie in 433'. Complete nonsense.

Then when proven wrong just point out his age.
 

Porque

Senior Member
Wage bill in isolation is all well and good but there's a chunk of clubs underneath ours who would amortize way higher than ourselves when coupled with transfers.

Football still isn't a free agency game like NFL.
 

Barcaman

Administrator
Staff member
It shows how poor their 'Gavi/Casado are better than Frenkie and he is done' arguments are when this is what they have to turn to.

As ever it is mental gymnastics and latest 'strawman'.

Strawman again. Did not claim in my post that Gavi and Casado are better players. Do better.

You're right about he is staying only because promised starter. And would leave of not paid second only to Lewandowski.
Tell us again how he is a leader in mold of Raphinha or Inigo. Those were some epic "mental gymnastics" as you say.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Strawman again. Did not claim in my post that Gavi and Casado are better players. Do better.

You're right about he is staying only because promised starter. And would leave of not paid second only to Lewandowski.
Tell us again how he is a leader in mold of Raphinha or Inigo. Those were some epic "mental gymnastics" as you say.

No thats not a strawman.. you need to learn what that means.

An observation of how the same folks arguments evolve is not 'strawman'.

Again.., he stayed when it was said Gavi would start ahead of him.. Raphinha on other hand wanted to leave when thought Xavi rated others ahead of him.

Another strawman from you Wurzel.. never once said anything about him staying because he 'was promised to be a starter'.

Try that one again.

Gavi would have left if not paid same as Pedri.. this logic. If players agree deal with club that is for both sides to be happy with it. If club didnt think him worth it dont offer and he leaves.
 

Jaguar

Flair Trait
✍🏻 Frenkie de Jong will extend his contract with Barça until 2028, with an option for one more year. He will earn €9M-a-year Net. [El Chiringuito TV]

This true or garbage? I know I heard he will extend his contract with lower wage but I was expecting 15-20% lower. This looks closer to 50% lower.
 

Barcaman

Administrator
Staff member
You really do need to learn about strawman.
After regularly shown where your arguments are wrong you keep ignoring points being made and address different topics that were never mentioned.

I, at least, admitted I was wrong about Casado being better than Frenkie but you can't seem to concede even the most trivial delusions.

It is peculiar to some extent.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
✍🏻 Frenkie de Jong will extend his contract with Barça until 2028, with an option for one more year. He will earn €9M-a-year Net. [El Chiringuito TV]

This true or garbage? I know I heard he will extend his contract with lower wage but I was expecting 15-20% lower. This looks closer to 50% lower.
Net bring the key term
 

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