2 - Pau Cubarsí

jamrock

Senior Member
Basically we are holding one coach more responsible for his defender getting a red card the team concede 6 goals in 180 minutes.

Than we are another for not being able to secure a 1 goal lead with 3 minutes remaining and 11 men on the field?.

Because the 2nd guy is cuter I guess?.

But on to Cubarsi he's fine and if we sign TAH he won't be an upgrade on any defenders we currently have

Christensen isn't the white knight that would have made everything better, he's just the white knight that wasn't at the fight, so we can only project our IFs into him.

No CB we sign will look as good as they should because this team exposes defenders like no other, but flick is smart and as seen he needs to work on it, I guarantee things will change next season in the overall shape of the team. Unless he's loco

Only defender that could probably have made a difference in that game was balde.
 

Porque

Senior Member
PSG vs Liverpool
Konate.

Even bastoni did something similar vs us

The key is both is the defender didn't fall over as well, it made it look clumsy and a lot worse than it is.

It's tough not conceded against that PSG pace with 10 men especially with Cancelo in defense, it's like playing with 3 defenders 😂.

Also know what's a lot easier by orders of magnitude? Not conceding 1 with 3 minutes left and everyone on the field.

We all saw at the time Lamine was causing them the most damage. It is what it is.

You know my view on the Inter goal already. Fouls should have been called.

In the end Acerbi scored a harder chance than Saka missed versus PSG. Margins (since we are praising the way LE closed that match despite almost bottling it again).
 

jamrock

Senior Member
We all saw at the time Lamine was causing them the most damage. It is what it is.

You know my view on the Inter goal already. Fouls should have been called.

In the end Acerbi scored a harder chance than Saka missed versus PSG. Margins (since we are praising the way LE closed that match despite almost bottling it again).

True especially the goal scored bit, 90% of the time that doesn't goal in.

The conversation then would be more like the one vs Madrid yesterday, heart attacks but we made it through.

Not withstanding us getting fucked by refs two games in a row. Smh
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Who is holding Xavi responsible for the defense? We are literally doing the opposite

Xavi system has always protected defense, is this true or no?
Yet the defense actually failed him in europe, repeatedly, in all competitions in different circumstances. A system designed to help defenders, and yet they failed their coach.

This is the argument.

The argument of the system and the players are different despite being closely related. But some folks are insisting to make them the same.

Our CB has failed us over and over without someone stepping up his game in Europe or at the end of the season. This has to stop.

I've explained it in the last page:

You say you can't play highline with 4-2, ok.
But what about when we are behind? The Inigo situation happened uncountable numbers in Barca with different coaches when it was a draw or we were losing.
And defenders knew they can't lose the ball in this position when they are the last defender.

The system argument is more related to the context, rather than the situation.

You can't be like this with 4-2 in classico, ir 3-2 in 93rd minutes in semifinals. That is true.

But the type of attacks, those aren't new situations that our CB were used to bail us out.

And for the record, I don't think any of our CB are bad or don't belong to the club.
But they are simply a misfit together, they lack the elite almost complete CB, or at least the perfect fit together where they cover for each other deficiencies (like Pique or Mascherano at some point).

And I don't think any of those who want better CB are saying Tah is a saviour, he is just more of the same.
The only thing he would do is just make us sell Araujo and invest money elsewhere.
 

Porque

Senior Member
True especially the goal scored bit, 90% of the time that doesn't goal in.

The conversation then would be more like the one vs Madrid yesterday, heart attacks but we made it through.

Not withstanding us getting fucked by refs two games in a row. Smh

Indeed. Yesterday's narrative would have been much different if it ended 4-4 had our old boy Victor Munoz put his chance away. Margins.

I actually think the way we closed yesterday's match was also because of what happened against Inter. We should have kept up the direct attacking with the forwards. Pedri was way too apprehensive making the wrong choices when trying to slow things down.
 

vuji_31

Senior Member
I really don't like this approach when we are leading in last minutes.

We are pressing and one thorugh ball behind defense and we are done.

Real Madrid would not score a single goal on our set-up defense. We gived them few gifts and we were lucky to take 3 points in last minutes.

We have great counter attack and we should exploit it even more when we are closing game.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Had a nightmare of a week. Basically his individual errors caused us to concede 4 out of 7 goals. Don't tell me that's on Flick or systemic errors. Not even close. Just players that are not good enough failing us, in this case, due to age, nerves, mental fatigue, whatever the issues.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
For the next two seasons he will develop more slowly, basically all of his development will come from play time and him improving in himself.

By then he should be the best defender in the world, instead he'll be top 10.

Most goals team concedes come from individual mistake, which is why coaches do two things.

1. Setup a system that minimizes those individuals errors

2. Which is a follow on to number 1, the system helps to mitigate the chances of those individual errors when they eventually happen leading to high Xg chances.

We do neither of those things now, but he has all the talent to be the best defender in the world.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Some errors remain on the players. Vs Madrid, for the 1-0, the team basically is set up in defense, not even a high line, and he fucks it up on his own. Those types of errors are simply individual fuck-ups and strictly on the players.
 

ZenI

Professor Balthazar
He made some errors last couple of games. But honestly, he usually makes much more good than bad.
 
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FCMessi

Senior Member
I don't know if people were already talking about this. But isn't this offside even though Cubarsi is playing the ball here?

This offside penalty plus the hand ball decisions and RM still lost.

63% to 37% possession.

24 to 9 shots.

4 Clasico sweep with 16 to 7 scored.

Unless RM improves dramatically over the summer, Barca should try to compare to PSG.
 

Temptation

Well-known member
Clearly not as good as the forum thinks he is.

CB position needs a lot more maturity and experience.

He's still very young. Should be a 3rd choice CB for now.

He doesn't have the strength, height and pace of some of the elite CBs. Still prone to brainfarts.

Needs more time and patience from the fans.
 

Kubala

Active member
Earlier in the season I was really impressed with his longer passing, into midfield, switching play etc but he seems to do that a lot less now. I wonder if that's him or he's being told to pass shorter but it's a shame as getting the ball into the forwards quicker sometimes gives them more time to take on their defender before they double up especially against low blocks of defensive teams.
 

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