Messigician
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Rodri won Euros
19 - Lamine Yamal
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Rodri won Euros
malvolio
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Yamal is not better than Mbappe yet.
Saudi would pay insane amounts anyway, that's not the standard for European clubs.
El Flaco
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At this point, Mbappe is the better goalscorer. Yamal is the better passer & dribbler. They are different type of players.
If Yamal becomes all-time great goalscorer, then he blows Mbappe out of the water as the far superior player.
The Saudi clubs doesnt have FFP rules that limits their spending spree like it does for Newcastle for example.
It also helped that Vini has terrible PR (almost entirely by his own doing) than Rodri.
This is Yamals first big contract. He will be 23 by the time his contract expires in 2031.
Premier League clubs or even FC Bayern can offer a way bigger bag without breaking their budget unlike us.
You also have Ryan Giggs who played from his teenage years until he retired at 40. He was very good well into his 30s.
Everyone are different.
Yamal is a much, much better player than a teenage Messi ever was.
Its completely justified Yamal gets a massive contract. Hell, Yamal is arguably underpaid given how much renevue he brings for us.
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FCBarca
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And I don‘t think this contract will make it to 2031, surely a renewal is ahead should his ascendency continue - that too, for me, is normal in football
In the end, the numbers are just that numbers, and they are linked to the huge pot of money clubs, leagues, UEFA, FIFA and media companies et al dip into. It is natural that the product (the players) are compensated fairly (Not fair to you or me but based on the revenue they are tied to generating)
Plus, buyouts are just that - an opportunity for a player to exit should a more interesting opportunity arise, just like it might for any of us in our lines of work. But the advantage of La Masia is that the dream is not just to succeed in professional football but to do so at the club of your dreams - I believe that sentiment is strong in the kid, protect him & the project and surely it will deepen to where the buyout fee is irrelevant when the player has no desire to go anywhere else
Far too early to contemplate these matters today, when Leo was this age we were just dying to see more of him with Ronaldinho - no one could predict the 20 years that would follow anymore than we can now with Lamine, although it could very well end up with Yamal even becoming the club’s greatest player in history…no one knows, time
In the end, the numbers are just that numbers, and they are linked to the huge pot of money clubs, leagues, UEFA, FIFA and media companies et al dip into. It is natural that the product (the players) are compensated fairly (Not fair to you or me but based on the revenue they are tied to generating)
Plus, buyouts are just that - an opportunity for a player to exit should a more interesting opportunity arise, just like it might for any of us in our lines of work. But the advantage of La Masia is that the dream is not just to succeed in professional football but to do so at the club of your dreams - I believe that sentiment is strong in the kid, protect him & the project and surely it will deepen to where the buyout fee is irrelevant when the player has no desire to go anywhere else
Far too early to contemplate these matters today, when Leo was this age we were just dying to see more of him with Ronaldinho - no one could predict the 20 years that would follow anymore than we can now with Lamine, although it could very well end up with Yamal even becoming the club’s greatest player in history…no one knows, time
malvolio
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That's another exaggeration. It's ridiculous to even mention Messi.
Mbappe was terrorising CL heavy weights while at Monaco, at 17. And those were better teams than current versions. Won a WC at 18.
RedxMAK
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Mbappe won the World Cup at 19 and had that great UCL season at 18
malvolio
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Yeah, I fucked up the years. Won Ligue 1 title at 18, scored in CL semis at 18 and WC he won at 19.
Yamal is not better than Messi at 17.
It all comes down to the fact that Yamal started playing in the first team at 16-17.
I am sure that Leo at 17 in the first team would have been better than Yamal.
It was just not common practice 20 years ago for 17 year old players to play in the first team.
Let's evaluate them by skills.
In terms of skills and "natural" qualities I see Yamal's ceiling if everything goes well - the maximum is the level of prime Neymar. Maybe a little higher.
But he will never reach Leo's level. Even if he trains 24/7 he will not reach this level, since the difference is in "natural" qualities.
It all comes down to the fact that Yamal started playing in the first team at 16-17.
I am sure that Leo at 17 in the first team would have been better than Yamal.
It was just not common practice 20 years ago for 17 year old players to play in the first team.
Let's evaluate them by skills.
In terms of skills and "natural" qualities I see Yamal's ceiling if everything goes well - the maximum is the level of prime Neymar. Maybe a little higher.
But he will never reach Leo's level. Even if he trains 24/7 he will not reach this level, since the difference is in "natural" qualities.
I evaluate them by their "natural" qualities. Leo - low center of gravity, incredible starting speed, excellent speed at a distance, close control of the ball, which we have not seen in anyone in history and unique body movements, which were a consequence of his "natural" qualities, and not a product of training, etc.
Yamal has none of this - he is different in terms of anthropometry and "natural" qualities.
I don't care how Lamine plays at 30. What I care about is securing our interests today, without going overboard.
No one knows the true details of this contract yet. For now I'm just happy it's secured along with the rest of our squad. Minus Frenkie. Let's see what happens there as we risk losing him for free.
No one knows the true details of this contract yet. For now I'm just happy it's secured along with the rest of our squad. Minus Frenkie. Let's see what happens there as we risk losing him for free.
Lol Yamal is better than current Mbappe, 18 years old Mbappe who?
Yamal won domestic treble against Mbappe's team lol. Schooled Mbappe's team in the last Euro and won when he was barely 17.
There is no comparison.
Not even Messi at 18 (2005/06) could compare to Yamal now, except for dribbling skill.
Messi at 19 (2006/07), yes.
Let's ignore the talent. But it's fair to say that Lamine is a more mature player.
Young Messi was an absolute buzzsaw though, just extreme youthful dribbling, while learning how to manage his body and injuries through his style. Had Ronaldinho and Eto'o to take the pressure off of his attack and attract space.
Young Messi was an absolute buzzsaw though, just extreme youthful dribbling, while learning how to manage his body and injuries through his style. Had Ronaldinho and Eto'o to take the pressure off of his attack and attract space.
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