16 - Fermín López
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malvolio
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He ain't pushing shit. He always had drive and ambition, it's the genuine talent and brains that is lacking.
Fati_Future_BallonDor
Humble guy
how many players in this team have the geniune talent though, as long as plays like yesterday he deserves a starting spot
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Blaugrana al vent
Shooting is also a talent, and he is probably the best shooter in the team after/on par with Rashford. Disagree that he lacks "genuine talent and brains" anyway
malvolio
Senior Member
Talent to start for Barca or course. Not talent in general.
He is a Betis level player, not that there's anything wrong with that.
So was Pedro. Or Oleguer.
malvolio
Senior Member
I'll give you Oleguer. Pedro was a better player than Fermin.
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
Depends what you compare him to.
The all-time greats? Sure compared to them he will not look like much.
But there's been plenty of players that's been between very good and elite that's started at the top level. Fermin I think can become that very good type of player that's not quite elite, but good enough to start for most good teams.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Good hat track and finishes.
The Barca front four at moment has too many all or nothing players and lacks balance to get ball in final third with any patience.
It is something liked from Roony. He assesses if it worth a risk and will play it simple if not. While others in comparison try and overly force the issue every time... Yamal been guilty of that recently.
Roony is not a better player than those others clearly but he is one who shows more balance of when to attack and when not to in recent games.
Fine v the shite but against good teams when need to get a foot hold in the game it is all very chaotic and open.
Can they out gun Real again in an open game? Maybe but doesnt look like it is on card from last few weeks.
Pedri in last few games been doing shuttle runs between a chaotic defence and chaotic front line. It lessens his chance to take control of the game.
Thats not a slight on Fermin as he is who he is.. high risk high reward but the balance of gung ho needs to be there more than is across the front four as a whole too many times this season.
Only Pedri and Frenkie are the ones that show any real patience in the final third.
Thats not to say Fermin shoudnt start its a point ouwith that and the front four whoever is in it at moment. Just if he is or whoever is there needs to be a better balance with patience at times for me to help the team in the bigger games.
The Barca front four at moment has too many all or nothing players and lacks balance to get ball in final third with any patience.
It is something liked from Roony. He assesses if it worth a risk and will play it simple if not. While others in comparison try and overly force the issue every time... Yamal been guilty of that recently.
Roony is not a better player than those others clearly but he is one who shows more balance of when to attack and when not to in recent games.
Fine v the shite but against good teams when need to get a foot hold in the game it is all very chaotic and open.
Can they out gun Real again in an open game? Maybe but doesnt look like it is on card from last few weeks.
Pedri in last few games been doing shuttle runs between a chaotic defence and chaotic front line. It lessens his chance to take control of the game.
Thats not a slight on Fermin as he is who he is.. high risk high reward but the balance of gung ho needs to be there more than is across the front four as a whole too many times this season.
Only Pedri and Frenkie are the ones that show any real patience in the final third.
Thats not to say Fermin shoudnt start its a point ouwith that and the front four whoever is in it at moment. Just if he is or whoever is there needs to be a better balance with patience at times for me to help the team in the bigger games.
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JamDav1982
Senior Member
There are not many teams that play four gung ho attackers currently and it is very chaotic.
PSG dont as play with three midfielders, City havent been recently with Foden/Silva playing more of combining and last third possession approach.
Looks like Liverpool doing the same even with Wirtz and not being that free player.
Barca on other hand...Rashy, Raphinha, Lewa, Ferran, Yamal, Olmo, Fermin the front four players any four when fit and they all play high risk/reward game.
To me it looks too chaotic and not giving the likes of Pedri the best chance to control the game as he is running shuttles up and down park and the midfield is losing shape between the chaotic defence and chaotic front line.
Teams are playing on that and learning how and where to break more efficiently it feels like.
PSG dont as play with three midfielders, City havent been recently with Foden/Silva playing more of combining and last third possession approach.
Looks like Liverpool doing the same even with Wirtz and not being that free player.
Barca on other hand...Rashy, Raphinha, Lewa, Ferran, Yamal, Olmo, Fermin the front four players any four when fit and they all play high risk/reward game.
To me it looks too chaotic and not giving the likes of Pedri the best chance to control the game as he is running shuttles up and down park and the midfield is losing shape between the chaotic defence and chaotic front line.
Teams are playing on that and learning how and where to break more efficiently it feels like.
I think wirtz will find his form so no. They should give him time. You should ask the same question in the future
Fermin for me is a better talent than Pedro, certainly on the ball. As useful he was, the latter also benefitted from playing along side elite teammates in almost all areas of the pitch, Fermin on the other hand is having to do much of the heavy lifting on his own.
With Olmo, Barca were essentially playing with a man down. Fermin may be inconsistent but atleast he makes his presence count on the pitch (by his hustle alone). So its good to have a full XI again.
With Olmo, Barca were essentially playing with a man down. Fermin may be inconsistent but atleast he makes his presence count on the pitch (by his hustle alone). So its good to have a full XI again.
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