14 - Marcus Rashford

[Maradona37]

Anyway, the overall argument re Rashford against Grealish is that athleticism, mentality and technique all matter in football. But athleticism and mentality are not anything to do with being a natural footballer - they're skills that are transferable to many other fields. Football talent is unique to...well...playing football.

Rashford could be much more effective for a football team than Grealish because he's much more athletic - but that's totally different to who's the more naturally gifted footballer with the most affinity with a ball at their feet.

This is why so many fans subconsciously hate guys like Ronaldo, Bale, Haaland etc. And why loads drool over Ronaldinho, Messi, Hazard and call them 'geniuses'. Fans deep down still wanna see football geniuses who make the game beautiful to watch, not athletic freaks and mentally strong robots who destroy the aesthetic of the game and make it look like a spreadsheet exercise.

Most football fans are still romantics deep down. Thank fuck. That's why I got into the game and why I love (d) it. I don't love football because someone is faster or stronger than someone else.

 

[scaliwa]

Ahh, you are one of those anti Barca style wankers who prefers Real Madrid and Man United's hero ball, you probably hate possession too and think the ball should be put in the box at every opportunity and everyone should be 'direct',, it all makes sense now why you think players who score goals automatically make the team better and why you prefer a G/A kick and run merchant (once in a blue moon) like Rashy to a proper footballer like Jack..

First sentence before the bracket is a thinly veiled attack on small players too.

Yes I prefer winning the champious league dozens of times over playing nice football and winning jack

 

[Maradona37]

Yes I prefer winning the champious league dozens of times over playing nice football and winning jack

I agree with you on different profiles being important, by the way. But it's the way you phrased it - 5 foot midgets. It highlights that you're resentful of that sort of football. Which begs the question why you support Barca in the first place.

And Real Madrid could easily have not won those 4 CLs in Ronaldo's time there. They got very lucky in most campaigns. You talk like they walked it because of their superior athleticism, when actually they got dominated a lot and relied in refs and poor finishing to get over the line, playing their very unattractive football. Don't make the mistake of thinking it was strategy and genius that got them those trophies., most of the time it was a miracle they won it.

 

[te amo barca]

Rashford is easily more technical than Grealish, who is limited both technically and physically.

 

[Maradona37]

Rashford is easily more technical than Grealish, who is limited both technically and physically.

Terrible opinion but agree to disagree.

Rashford takes terrible first touches a lot. Grealish instantly kills it. Rashford often runs the ball out of play, while Grealish does not. Grealish is better against low blocks. Grealish has better passing too. Plus Rashford skies so many shots.

I get Rashford has joined Barca but there's no need to talk absolute pish. So obvious half of you have hardly ever watched him at United (as proved by all the guys who keep saying he should play as a nine) and are talking him up because he's joined Barca (for ages you cannot even afford and a player you cannot register - you are an awfully run club, just like United). Pathetic.

Loads of United fans - even when he wasn't hated there - didn't rate him technically by the way.

I doubt you have played much football yourself because if you had you'd be able to instantly recognise who is technical and who is not.

 

[te amo barca]

Terrible opinion but agree to disagree.

Rashford takes terrible first touches a lot. Grealish instantly kills it. Rashford often runs the ball out of play, while Grealish does not. Grealish is better against low blocks. Grealish has better passing too. Plus Rashford skies so many shots.

I get Rashford has joined Barca but there's no need to talk absolute pish. So obviously half of you have hardly ever watched him at United and are talking him up because he's joined Barca. Pathetic.

Loads of United fans - even when he wasn't hated there - didn't rate him technically by the way.

Rashford is not a technical magician, it’s more about how stiff, slow and predictable Grealish is (and has absolutely no weak foot to add some left foot touches on the ball for dribbling variety). Grealish barely takes his man on.

 

[Maradona37]

Rashford is not a technical magician, it’s more about how stiff, slow and predictable Grealish is (and has absolutely no weak foot to add some left foot touches on the ball for dribbling variety). Grealish barely takes his man on.

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Rashford is not a technical magician'

you don't say...technique is his biggest weakness.

Grealish can take his man on, he just refuses to do so for whatever reason. Rashford generally fails when he takes his man on. Grealish has a far far better first touch and if you deny that you are a lost cause.

Ronaldo's weak foot is better than Messi's (except when chipping), is he more technical than Messi then? Rashford has a non-existent left too

The overrating this guy is getting on here because he's joined you is mind-boggling. Nobody rated him on here a year ago. Here in the UK he's generally seen as vastly overrated by non-United fans and a PR darling.

 

[Maradona37]

Rashford is being so overrated on here by fans who are desperate to see Barca succeed that you have even got me taking Grealish's side. And I hate that cunt.

This thread is bizarre. So many of you have rarely watched Rashford play but go by goals, stats, highlights videos and what the English media says about him.

The delusion on here is insane. Serghei even posted a video of his game against PSG like it was the reincarnation of Ronaldinho...the first 1 minute 49 seconds was him constantly losing the ball and he did like three good things in the entire video. Probably because he got an assist it gets painted as a great performance. That being called a great performance proves how overrated he is. Go back and watch the video - he gives the ball away constantly, and these are his 'highlights' haha.

I am not a Barca fan so I hope he fails to shut you lot up with your garbage. Nothing I hate more than brutal bias.

 

[Maradona37]

Anyway, time for another break for me...threads like this remind me this site is often an echo chamber, especially when it comes to Barca. See ya.

 

[te amo barca]

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you don't say...technique is his biggest weakness.

Grealish can take his man on, he just refuses to do so for whatever reason. Rashford generally fails when he takes his man on. Grealish has a far far better first touch and if you deny that you are a lost cause.

Ronaldo's weak foot is better than Messi's (except when chipping), is he more technical than Messi then? Rashford has a non-existent left too

The overrating this guy is getting on here because he's joined you is mind-boggling. Nobody rated him on here a year ago. Here in the UK he's generally seen as vastly overrated by non-United fans and a PR darling.

Nah, I just never rated Grealish, he’s okay but not that special (big fish in a small pond type of player) and Rashford has a much much higher ceiling, different levels. I don’t understand why you are so aggravated, let’s just wait until Rashford plays 15-20 games first. I watched both many times.

 

[Maradona37]

Nah, I just never rated Grealish, he’s okay but not that special (big fish in a small pond type of player) and Rashford has a much much higher ceiling, different levels. I don’t understand why you are so aggravated, let’s just wait until Rashford plays 15-20 games first. I watched both many times.

Whatever you say. Rashford has never even been anywhere near a title race yet you're acting like he's ever been in a big pond. Different levels my balls, Rashford is a very mediocre footballer who could never perform like Grealish did the second half of City's treble season. A complete moments player.

The guy does annoy me. It's more that people in here are acting like they know the player when they clearly have barely watched him going by the myths they're spouting about him and his career.

I think he can succeed, what I have a problem with is the optimistic rose-tinted glasses that is going on in this thread. Tbh the guy is a waste of Barca's already terrible finances and has he even been registered yet? I think he will prove to be another terrible decision in the long line of terrible Barca decisions.

Anyway, like I say, this thread has opened my eyes to just how biased and delusionally optimistic people are on here, and in that respect you're no better than Redcafe, and I hate that site for that reason. So I am done.

Take it easy.

 

[Maradona37]

@te amo barca

The way you feel about Grealish is how I feel about Rashford. I have been watching football since the 80s and he's in the top 5 most overrated players I have seen in all that time. I think he's a total donkey and even in his 'good' seasons he's invisible for 90 percent of a game and gets overrated because of stats obsessed goal and assists merchants who can't tactically analyse a game.

It says a lot about him that people say 'when he's on it he's great' - he's on it very very rarely and that applies to all players anyway. This guy gets away with so much that people rate him for having one good season every five years.

A complete fraud hyped up to insane levels. He has the profile of Messi in the UK, and it's all because he plays for media darlings and establishment club Man United. And unfortunately guys like you swallow it because you think Man United are still a relevant club.

He's a total fraud and I suspect that Barca will find that out when it truly matters. And I have a really good track record on being proved right about United players.

As for Grealish, I am not really a fan. But as someone who has been playing football and playing it well at my level before either of the two of them were born, it's exceedingly apparent to me that he's a much more naturally gifted footballer than kick and run double digit IQ headless chicken 'Rashy'.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Don't rate Grealish's looks at all, looks like a junkie in the face. We can debate it in private message though if you like, lol.

Be a man and defend your silly opinion in public!🤬

He has a good face + fame, this is more than enough to live a good (party) life. Obviously he isnt Henry, CR or Brad lvl.

 

[Titan98]

I don’t understand why you rate grealish so high. Rashford will be a backup for us, he is not worldclass but grealish is shit. Too slow for a winger and i dont see his dribbling skills or great passing skills. He was overpriced at aston villa and one of the weakest 100 million players all time. He was never worth more than 50 million even at his prime and for me ferran is way better than grealish.
Just one of this english overpriced footballer i never wanna see at barca.
And i am one of the fans who like footballers like messi, ronaldinho or lamine, not those athletic robots but grealish is no technique genius, he is just a bad footballer

 

[draconifire]

If this Grealish fucker is actually an alcoholic, there is no way Barca should even come close to him.

Rashy is a lot of things, but not an alcoholic. That shit can fuck up a squad filled with highly impressionable teenagers.
No way a person like that should enter this club's dressing room.