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Right, so find me a player who you think plays the same role as Pedri and who's about the same level, and we'll see if their numbers look similar. Also, I'm not discussing how Pedri has played for Spain, I'm discussing how he plays for us right now since that is what I'm interested in.

I'm not saying they're a direct measure of how good a player is lol. Why would you assume that?

Trying to put some numbers to the issue I have with him of not being inovlved enough in general circulation. Pedri averages 43,9 passes per 90 as a CM. These are passes per 90 for comparable players in England and Spain (only appearances registered as CM by whoscored): Thiago 86,7 Milner 75,3...

Not great, but his movement was positive.

0.54 XA isn't terrible but you can't play anything resembling fluid, fast-paced football with a midfielder that completes just 33 passes in 90 minutes. That's fewer passes than Ter Stegen. Can't be done, sorry. I don't care if he fucks up 9 out of 10 actions. He has to involve himself more in...

I don't mind his positivity. We're not playing at the level we aspire to and everybody can see that. He's pointed it out himself quite a few times. And it hasn't changed anything. What is he gonna do, just keep criticizing us in the press game after game even though we keep sucking? That would...

Any way to tell how many passes Frenkie and Pedri had between them? I can see the logic behind spreading out the midfield like that but in reality, it's just not working. We can't tiki the taka without concentrating numbers in the same zone.

The point of a Noa Lang type would be to increase the tempo of the attack. I don't see how we can do that without someone who can drive it forward, receive in stride and be inventive in final third.

Well, it's easy to speak in vague and general terms and dismiss names when you don't name any yourself. Ironically, what you're describing - more direct attacking, on-ground focal point, runs in behind defenses - that's exactly what a player like Noa Lang offers. I'm not saying he's...

Are you watching our games?

We're currently playing Sevilla rejects, third division players and memes like Martin Braithwaite. Not a single one of our reliably fit players is able to fill in 10% of the creative gap left by Messi. You don't think it's time to re-think the concept of being "good enough for Barcelona?"

To me, Haaland seems at least as dumb an idea as Dembele was. We simply don't have the creative facilities nor the attacking intensity to support him. That's one thing. The other is style of play. You probably couldn't pick a team in all of top flight football that suits him less than ours...

Still think his drop is being significantly exaggerated. He's not cutting it at the moment, but people are acting like he's putting in 2's and 3's when he's more like a 5 in a team that averages 6. He made a mistake yesterday but was otherwise fine, mediocre, meh - just like the rest of the team.

honestly can't tell if this guy is being serious or not...

Why are you linking to a hamstring muscle and saying it's the knee mate?

Well the injured part is not the knee, so I'd say it's not a knee injury.

Maybe. Is it also unfair to expect him to try?

It is a comparison. I didn't say it's not a comparison?? I said it's not a comparison of who is more talented. It's a comparison of how they played tonight.

Still don't think he was bad at all. Just inadequate, as was most of our team.

Sorry, but what is your point about the comparison being unfair? It's not a discussion of who's the more talented player. It's an analysis of why one team was better than the other tonight. Saying that it's unfair makes as much sense as telling the ref that it's unfair that their players have...